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Hi,

Box sizes for an isobaric pair (need to add front compartment) :
Around 7L sealed.
Around 14L vented tuned to 36Hz (max flat) to 30Hz (max extension).

Nominal single 8 ohm driver sensitivity = efficiency = 87dB.
Parallel isobaric pair sensitivity = 87dB, efficiency = 84dB.

All 2-ways need baffle step compensation, depending on the driver
response this varies electrically, but acoustically is near 4 to 6 dB.

Consequently nominal speaker sensitivity will be around 82dB/2.83V.
This is true for a single driver or an isobaric parallel pair.

:)/sreten.
 
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sreten said:
Hi,

Box sizes for an isobaric pair (need to add front compartment) :
Around 7L sealed.
Around 14L vented tuned to 36Hz (max flat) to 30Hz (max extension).

Nominal single 8 ohm driver sensitivity = efficiency = 87dB.
Parallel isobaric pair sensitivity = 87dB, efficiency = 84dB.

All 2-ways need baffle step compensation, depending on the driver
response this varies electrically, but acoustically is near 4 to 6 dB.

Consequently nominal speaker sensitivity will be around 82dB/2.83V.
This is true for a single driver or an isobaric parallel pair.

:)/sreten.


you do realise that you've just contradicted yourself yet again, right? lol
 
Thawach said:
sreten said:


No. For isobaric :
Parallel the same sensitivity. In series sensitivity is - 6dB.
Efficiency in both cases is - 3dB compared to a single.


Steren

The sensitivity is a specific drivers.,87 db= 87 db
I want to know where do they measure 2 drivers together.?

The sensitivity is high.


Hi,

I do not understand the question.
Sensitivity for a driver = dB/2.83V into half space.
Derivation of two drivers in any arrangement is physics.

:)/sreten.
 
Sreten


the Symmetry loudspeaker have two woffers work together.
The sound level is higher (6 db). But the sensitivity of the
woofers be the same. If you have two woffers wire will be wired in series(16 ohm). It means the sound level is lower than. But the sensitivity of the woofers be the same.

Thanks
Thawach:xeye:
 
Thawach said:
Sreten


the Symmetry loudspeaker have two woffers work together.
The sound level is higher (6 db). But the sensitivity of the
woofers be the same. If you have two woffers wire will be
wired in series(16 ohm). It means the sound level is lower than.
But the sensitivity of the woofers be the same.

Thanks
Thawach:xeye:

Hi,

For two drivers (not isobaric) :
Radiation efficiency increases by 3dB, efficiency = + 3dB.
Wired in parallel sensitivity is + 6dB compared to a single driver.
Wired in series sensitivity is the same as a single driver.

:)/sreten.
 
TWOJZ said:
Thawach, you're wasting your time talking to sreten,
he keeps contradicting himself, and doesn't seem to
really know what he's talking about.

But let him go on, its quite entertaining :)

Hi,

Sadly the reverse is the case, and your arrogance in your
ignorance I find quite tedious rather than humorous. It
seems I am being forced into wasting my time with you
when I was trying to help, and I suggest you do not foist
your ill-informed and innacurate opinions on others.

FWIW :

The efficiency of an array of n drivers increases by 10log(n) if
they are wired for equal power - the impedance does not matter.
The sensitivity of said array varies depending on the impedance.

The efficiency of n drivers all isobaric decreases by 10log(n).

There are no contradictions in the previous information given.

Given the concepts of senstivity and efficiency I've stated it
as simply as possible, anyone who thinks I'm making it difficult
must be mis-understanding something along the way.

:sigh: /sreten.
 
Thawach said:
Hi! sreten

Autenuations do not finish, You take him to design the baffle step
cicuit. What do you think? It's just a little box. Why do you talk
about the baffle step circuit?

Thanks
Thawach

Hi,

I am not sure what you exactly mean and are exactly asking.
Why talk about BSC ? Why not ? It is standard design practise.
The answer to the first post is 7dB in terms of the question.

But in reality it is not right, but it seems TWOJZ does not care.
Or care that what is correct he appears to think is nonsense.

:)/sreten.
 
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