Would it? Wouldn't the grid voltage would be too high for the LM317 then?
EDIT: Maybe if a different, higher voltage CCS was used we could omit the capacitor if the gain stage (going to the grid) was run at a lower voltage?
EDIT: It just seems easier to use the cap and reference a low voltage to the grid, but I am open to ideas, as less caps is always a good thing.
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You can still use lower CCS negative rail in order to keep LM317 under the absolute max voltage limit by sufficient margin. Just amounts to common sense and a bit of tweaking
Isn't the grid is tied to GND itself by a grid bias resistor?
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You can still use lower CCS negative rail in order to keep LM317 under the absolute max voltage limit by sufficient margin. Just amounts to common sense and a bit of tweaking
I'm still learning here, but that sounds to me like a negative voltage at the bottom of the LM317 would increase the voltage across the it, or am I misunderstanding this?
Yeah, I know I can do that so I don't have to reference a low voltage to the grid with the voltage divider, but I am fairly sure (thanks, SY!) that without the capacitor there the voltage at the grid will be very high (170 VDC) and cause the LM317 to fry because of the grid-to-cathode voltage.
Voltage between your grid and GND will be almost zero if you use CCS return with -15V or so negative rail approach.
Voltage between your grid and GND will be almost zero if you use CCS return with -15V or so negative rail approach.
Can you show me a schematic? I think I must not be fully understanding
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The voltage on the grid wouldn't be 0 without the capacitor, it would be 170 (plus there wouldn't be a need for the 300K grid leak resistor). Would this still work in that case?
Ok I give up
On me, or the design?
I admit, new concepts aren't something I always grasp easily, and negative bias voltages are not something I am overly familiar with (but I understand them a bit).
However, as SY told me already, the 170VDC grid to cathode voltage from the previous gain stage (a simple grounded cathode amplifier with the signal taken off the anode) is what was frying my LM317s and causing a low grid-to-plate voltage. The reason I put the cap there was to reduce the grid voltage to 0, then add the voltage divider to put 10 volts on the grid, in order to turn on the LM317.
Ok, I was not aware of the fact that the output of previous stage was coming from anode terminal, in that case the cap is needed for sure.
Only if the source or previous stage with zero offset is available, then you can omit cap while using CCS with negative rail approach.
That's what I thought (and why I was confused at your suggestions). I probably should have drawn out a full schematic, but I was being lazy lol.
I come up with something like this. By adjusting R7 you can reduce power dissipation in LM317, provided it's above the current limit. R8 adjusts the V3 bias, the direct coupling is possible such that plate voltage is same as the dc voltage required to achieve V3 bias level. V1 supply is regulated to prevent non linearity due to voltage drop. V1 cathode is tied to -ve so the input level can be higher than if it is ground referenced, but output is limited to V3 bias level (can someone brighten me how to increase output?).
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