Build This MoFo!

Try evaluate what great front end and preamp is with MoFo for your audio source and speakers
 

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I woke early this morning so I played a little with the MoFo amp in LTSpice.

In simulation the IRFP7430 gave much less THD and a much nicer distortion spectrum with less higher order harmonics.

With 19,3 volts (typical Laptop) power supply, 1,7 ampere current 5 + 5 volt @ 100 Hz over a 8 ohm load, and 50 mH 0,5 ohm choke I got the following numbers:

IRFP7430 = 0,017% THD and only second and third harmonics visible in the FFT.
IXYS IXTK200N10 = 0,031% THD and a visble fifth harmonic in the FFT.
IRFP054V = 0,066% THD and a visible fifth harmonic in the FFT.

This is not very surprising due to the unique "Triodity" of the IRFP7430.
I am very tempted to buy a pair of Hammond chokes.. I love the extreme simplicity, and I know from previous similar projects that it can sound excellent.

Cheers,
Johannes
 
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I have been testing the MoFo amp in LTSpice but with a larger choke.
I tried the IRLB3034pbf (TO220 equivalent of IRLP3034) and the simulated distortion is vanishingly low. I don't believe these low distortion values, but I do believe the general trend of very low THD from these low Vds - high transconductance parts like the IRLP3034, IRFP7430 among others.

A Hammond choke is not as good as the simplified spice-part, and a loudspeaker is a reactive load. The distortion will not be this low, but I do expect significantly less distortion then from an IRFP150/250.

Cheers,
Johannes
 
A toriod transformer may work but you will want to measure the inductance. Like I have a 110v to 12.5 v 110va transformer. My cheap chinese inductance meter measures the primary at about 500mh and the secondary at 7 mh and while this meter may be way off it still tells me that secondary won't have enough inductance. And someone mentioned cheap common mode chokes. I am afraid those just won't work for us here. They are intended for filtering high frequency noise as you see from the inductance being quoted at typicaly 10khz .
 
A toriod transformer may work but you will want to measure the inductance. Like I have a 110v to 12.5 v 110va transformer. My cheap chinese inductance meter measures the primary at about 500mh and the secondary at 7 mh and while this meter may be way off it still tells me that secondary won't have enough inductance. And someone mentioned cheap common mode chokes. I am afraid those just won't work for us here. They are intended for filtering high frequency noise as you see from the inductance being quoted at typicaly 10khz .

Thank you for this comment.

I was a bit afraid my idea was just too cheap. :eek:

I had studied a couple of datasheets of these common mode chokes. Especially the graphs showing the frequency behavior made me worry. Not a lot of inductance left at lower frequencies.

:(

I also found information on how to calculate the inductance of a toroid. This gave me second thoughts on this idea. You need rather big toroids to get this right. And the core saturation caused by just a tiny bit of DC current (mentioned in ZV7-T) is also something to keep in mind. Back to the basic Hammond choke it is. :rolleyes:
 

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The big Hammond lump is only mildly over-size for the SE form, depending how much bass power you expect from a dozen Watts.

In push-pull, 2 lumps, double the weight/cost.

In push-pull, ONE lump CT, you can probably use 1/4 the weight (and cost) due to flux cancellation and less need for gap.

I really do NOT believe the $3 CM chokes can support this amp. I can not pinpoint the "why", except the iron (ferrite) has to DO something, and you don't get much stuff for $3.

Power transformer is hopeful. We have about 12V RMS each side or 24V RMS bridged. Normally we must work audio far below the Voltage we accept for power iron, because distortion bothers us but not the power company. In this case the fat MOSFET may allow use of a 24VAC CT winding for OK 50Hz power, or a 48V CT winding for excellent clean power toward 30Hz.
 
HUGE problem!

We have a rooster named Mofo (yes, really). Now when I ask my significant other to turn down Mofo she's going to think I'm referring to the the rooster...

Just sayin...

Thanks for another interesting project!

Steve :)
 

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