For the venerable Orion 3.3.1 not by much...my total construction costs in 2009 for the speakers including ASP, cabinets (DIY solid walnut sides), drivers, Neutrik connectors & cables was $3035. I picked up a Sonance Sonamp 1250 MKII (12x50W) on eBay for $525. Orion 4 uses higher cost Seas bass drivers that will take the cost closer to $4K. This certainly illustrates the DIY advantage as turnkey Orion 4 from Wood Artistry starts at $14,750!!
What about an audio note kit. They are buildable in an apartmrnt and sound really good too , spcially with tubes. Audio Note Kits - Audio Note Speaker Kits
Emerald physics Cs2's
Just keep checking audiogone, there are none on there right now but just keep checking every few days.
In my experience, they are the best for eliminating room reflections.
That's what you need in a room without the hassle of room treatments.
Or you can go the opposite direction AKA, linkwitz, and get an omni.
Duvell's Planets, or linkwitz own....Pluto.
Just keep checking audiogone, there are none on there right now but just keep checking every few days.
In my experience, they are the best for eliminating room reflections.
That's what you need in a room without the hassle of room treatments.
Or you can go the opposite direction AKA, linkwitz, and get an omni.
Duvell's Planets, or linkwitz own....Pluto.
err...hmm...I think you mean Vandersteen.
Tinitus,
Has someone hacked your account? I have seen your posts in the past and they are usually better formatted than this one.
BTW is b767 still active on his/her thread?
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seems so
15" woofers and 6" midrange, thats a no good at all
Im sure a 2way with 6" woofer is much better hifi
whatevr, buy what you think sounds good
what others say doesnt matter
unless ofcourse it matches your own opinion
seems so
15" woofers and 6" midrange, thats a no good at all
Im sure a 2way with 6" woofer is much better hifi
whatevr, buy what you think sounds good
what others say doesnt matter
unless ofcourse it matches your own opinion
have you ever heard a 1000 USD Cornscala? sound much much better than many commercial speakers out there
above 100db of efficiency and of course 15" woofer:
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How do you manage >100dB efficiency with a direct radiating 15" who's T/S specs out at about 96dB?have you ever heard a 1000 USD Cornscala? sound much much better than many commercial speakers out there
above 100db of efficiency and of course 15" woofer:
sounds like lots of midrange, and little bass
and the claim might be 'clean detailed bass'
which would be true
but midrange would easily tend to 'stick out', and be a bit 'annoying'
might be claimed to be 'revealing' or 'true to the recording'
in such case I might recommend a tone control
actually, it should be biamped with a tone control for each amp
and the claim might be 'clean detailed bass'
which would be true
but midrange would easily tend to 'stick out', and be a bit 'annoying'
might be claimed to be 'revealing' or 'true to the recording'
in such case I might recommend a tone control
actually, it should be biamped with a tone control for each amp
I like the general format, but I wouldn't use those drivers or horns, though my solution would be more costly than $1k/pr.
The 100dB sensitivity is wishful thinking if intended as a broadband value, but could easily be the efficiency of the MF and HF sections alone, just not when padded down to match the LF driver.
I found the specs on my PC and the value I have for the driver is 95.3dB.
the woofer is Eminence CW1526C with about 100db efficiency. will be more sensitive in a horn structure
Go to Lyric Hi Fi at 1221 Lexington Ave. They have Magnepans. Listen to the 1.7. If it fits in your space, and you like it, consider buying it.
Unfortunately, no one in NY has picked up Vandersteen since Singer changed over to an appointment only store. Audio Connection in Verona NJ has a good reputation, and they have Vandersteens, and Magnepans. You might consider a trip out there.
I think that if you have the space, Vandersteens are very, very hard to beat at their price points, perhaps even at all. Magnepan has loyal followers, and with good reason. The Vandersteen 2 and the Magnepan 1.7 are often cited as the best speakers you can get in your price range, and they both leave some wiggle room in the price.
Of course, you need a big space for those speakers. If you are doing apartment listening, and you don't have a dedicated listening room, powered monitors might be the way to go. Really great sound can be had in your price range in studio monitors. Look at Focal, Adam, and Dynaudio.
Get out there and listen!
Happy hunting.
Unfortunately, no one in NY has picked up Vandersteen since Singer changed over to an appointment only store. Audio Connection in Verona NJ has a good reputation, and they have Vandersteens, and Magnepans. You might consider a trip out there.
I think that if you have the space, Vandersteens are very, very hard to beat at their price points, perhaps even at all. Magnepan has loyal followers, and with good reason. The Vandersteen 2 and the Magnepan 1.7 are often cited as the best speakers you can get in your price range, and they both leave some wiggle room in the price.
Of course, you need a big space for those speakers. If you are doing apartment listening, and you don't have a dedicated listening room, powered monitors might be the way to go. Really great sound can be had in your price range in studio monitors. Look at Focal, Adam, and Dynaudio.
Get out there and listen!
Happy hunting.
I got the specs from Crites and it is 95.3dB and it is not in a horn, it's direct radiating ported enclosure you showed, so NO horn loading of the LF driver in a CORNSCALA. Look on Crites site, the build images for the Cornscala show it is a simple ported box.
Efficiency differs from SPL sensitivity... CW1526 will do 104-105db@1w/m in a Klipschorn or La Scala folded horn
don't forget "Horns are natural amplifiers so they increase efficiency"
Uh actually I don't have a Cornscala but I do have Cornwall and La Scala. they sound pretty good with 1-2 watt of power. the sound is not annoying at all and it took a turn for the better when I used tractrix mid range horn
I have had lots of speakers but Horns sound much better to my ears more details and a good balance between micro and macro dynamics and of course very low THD and a big range of low-powered amplifiersnice to hear I was right about the flea power
I guess its better not be too 'bass heavy' then
Well, duh.
Who gives a f... what they'll do in a horn? In a Cornscala they're not in a horn, they're a direct radiatorCW1526 will do 104-105db@1w/m in a Klipschorn or La Scala folded horn
do they have no horn loading, so it is irrelevant.
I have owned Khorn, LaScala (factory and DIY, also djk ported), Heresy and KPT250. By the time I'd engineered all the faults out of the Khorn, there were no Klipsch parts left in system.
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