B1 Buffer Preamp

Hi,

well that is very interesting... Marantz must have put a lot of thought in to preserve a click like that!
If that is the case I am going to experiment with a low value cap to see if it suppresses it.
I have searched various documents that describe relay switching circuits; so far none have found it necessary to show a paralleled cap across the relay.... that makes me very suspicious.

George
Nelson does it! Not across a relay but across a switch, what should be similar.
 

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Thanks to Papa Nelson and Salas:

This is my first post on DyiAudio. I just finished a B1 with a 20 volt single pole power supply using an LM317T after a CLC filter (6,800 micofarads, 10milliHenry/7 ohm, 6,800 micofarads). On Input 2, I installed a six relay input selector kit I found on eBay.

The B1 is incredible and exceeds my fondest expectations. On my speakers (circa 92 dB) it is absolutely silent. In my living room the B1 satisfatorily drives either my Conrad-Johnson MV-55 tube amplifier or Dyi 2006 JLH Clas A to any level I care to listen to. Driven by the B1 each amplifier exhibits the strengths of its particular typology. The low output impedance of the B1 appears more compatible with each amplifier than the output from my prior preamplifier, a tube-based model.

I cannot thank Nelson Pass enough for making this design available to us. It can be implemented for less than $200, including boards and NJFETs from PassDyi, all other parts, and a low-cost chasis. Its performance exceeds anything I know of that is commercially available for many multiples of its cost. The B1 has provided me with the confidence to order the F-5 boards and parts for my next project. I urge anyone who is contempating building a B1 to hesitate no longer and do so. As Papa has indicated, the standard version works extremely well!

I also want to thank Salas for his patience and unstinting guidance regarding all of the questions asked about the B1. Even though I built a standard version, Salas' advice helped me to gain a deeper understanding of the design and appreciate the various iterations possible. As one of my next projects I intend to build the Salas simplified 36 dB NJFET RIAA for installation in my B1 chasis. Experience with the B1 has made me a true believer in the miracles which the 2SK170 is capable of producing.

Deepest and sincere thanks.
 
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This is my first post on DyiAudio. I just finished a B1 with a 20 volt single pole power supply using an LM317T after a CLC filter (6,800 micofarads, 10milliHenry/7 ohm, 6,800 micofarads). On Input 2, I installed a six relay input selector kit I found on eBay.

The B1 is incredible and exceeds my fondest expectations. On my speakers (circa 92 dB) it is absolutely silent. In my living room the B1 satisfatorily drives either my Conrad-Johnson MV-55 tube amplifier or Dyi 2006 JLH Clas A to any level I care to listen to. Driven by the B1 each amplifier exhibits the strengths of its particular typology. The low output impedance of the B1 appears more compatible with each amplifier than the output from my prior preamplifier, a tube-based model.

I cannot thank Nelson Pass enough for making this design available to us. It can be implemented for less than $200, including boards and NJFETs from PassDyi, all other parts, and a low-cost chasis. Its performance exceeds anything I know of that is commercially available for many multiples of its cost. The B1 has provided me with the confidence to order the F-5 boards and parts for my next project. I urge anyone who is contempating building a B1 to hesitate no longer and do so. As Papa has indicated, the standard version works extremely well!

I also want to thank Salas for his patience and unstinting guidance regarding all of the questions asked about the B1. Even though I built a standard version, Salas' advice helped me to gain a deeper understanding of the design and appreciate the various iterations possible. As one of my next projects I intend to build the Salas simplified 36 dB NJFET RIAA for installation in my B1 chasis. Experience with the B1 has made me a true believer in the miracles which the 2SK170 is capable of producing.

Deepest and sincere thanks.

Agreed. You will really think this even more when the F-5 is complete.:yinyang:

Russellc
 
I have to agree with comments about the B1. Mine goes from 5hz to 780khz with good voltage swings. It has the most open, raw and revealing sound of all my preamps to date, SS and tube. For me though I need more gain, even some gain so I'm building my third BoZ. This time with no input caps to be driven by my new Oppo BDP-83SE.

If you like the B1 then build the simple BoZ. In front of a pannel of hard core listeners they voted BoZ over B1 as the better preamp. I'm still a big fan of the B1.
 
Hi folks.

Hoping someone can help with a problem I have matching JFETs for the B1. I have copied exactly the following simple circuit for N-channel JFET matching described in the link below:

Transistor matching

For the 9V supply I am using one of those rectangular (6LR61) batteries which I read elsewhere should be up to the task.

Trouble is I get no reading at all on my DMM. The lowest setting on the DC scale is 200mV, which I assume on that setting measures everything up to 200mV?

Have I made some simple error here? It's driving me nuts!

Many thanks,

- John
 
I'm using the circuit exactly as described in that link, so no resistor... And my DMM is set to the 200mV (max) setting. I get a zero reading.

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

mV(volt) or mA(amp)? One measures voltage one measures current. The circuit is measuring current... EDIT: Which means the meter needs to be in series with the circuit.
 
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Right after my little mistake (slaps forehead) measured the JFETs without trouble.

I have in my small batch of 2SK170's:

9.5 (1)

9.6 (1)

9.8 (3)

9.9 (1)

10 (1)

10.1 (1)

10.2 (1)

10.3 (2)

I assume from what I have read that out of that bunch, best to have a pair of 9.8s for the CCS, and a pair of 10.3s for the follower transistors?

Cheers,

- John
 
Been reading more posts about the JFETs and now a little confused as to which is the best configuration:

1) Pair of 9.8's for CCS, and pair of 10.3's for the follower transistors

OR

2) 9.5 (CCS) and 9.6 (follower) for one channel, and 9.8 (CCS) and 9.9 (follower) for the other?

Any difference or doesn't it matter?

Cheers,

- John