It's wonderful to see so many opinions on this thread. Thanks to everyone.
I discussed life and death and the after life many times with my mom. Something that she wouldn't have done by herself because of the stigma attached to talking about death.
She was pretty cool about it and agreed that dying and the after life was fine. Being bed ridden with illness was not !
I lost her on the 12th of this month. How much ever we talk about these things , parting is always very painful !
I guess it's OK as she was ill only 2 days and didn't suffer and more importantly , she had a full life - she was 84.
I discussed life and death and the after life many times with my mom. Something that she wouldn't have done by herself because of the stigma attached to talking about death.
She was pretty cool about it and agreed that dying and the after life was fine. Being bed ridden with illness was not !
I lost her on the 12th of this month. How much ever we talk about these things , parting is always very painful !
I guess it's OK as she was ill only 2 days and didn't suffer and more importantly , she had a full life - she was 84.
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Dear ashok,
really sorry to hear about your mother but I am glad that she did not suffer and reached a good age and had a full life.
Being bed ridden with illness is, or at least can be, truely horrible.
Just two weeks ago my closest friend and the best man at my wedding died of an agressive form of lung cancer after just a few months of illness. I saw him often as he withered away and the day before he died he was just a shadow of his former self, unable to speak and in great pain despite the morphine drip.
He was not a religous man but had great intellectual spirituality......he taught Tai Chi for many years so was at peace with himself. He was 57!
It is a shame that he was persuaded to take a course of chemotherapy as this was the final nail in his coffin and it ruined the last few weeks of his life.
He was the third close friend that I have buried and I am now more sure than ever that there is no afterlife, only the memories we have of them persist through time.
RIP
really sorry to hear about your mother but I am glad that she did not suffer and reached a good age and had a full life.
Being bed ridden with illness is, or at least can be, truely horrible.
Just two weeks ago my closest friend and the best man at my wedding died of an agressive form of lung cancer after just a few months of illness. I saw him often as he withered away and the day before he died he was just a shadow of his former self, unable to speak and in great pain despite the morphine drip.
He was not a religous man but had great intellectual spirituality......he taught Tai Chi for many years so was at peace with himself. He was 57!
It is a shame that he was persuaded to take a course of chemotherapy as this was the final nail in his coffin and it ruined the last few weeks of his life.
He was the third close friend that I have buried and I am now more sure than ever that there is no afterlife, only the memories we have of them persist through time.
RIP
No matter can be created or destroyed, it can merely change shape...but you said it so much better!
But the information or patterns if you like contained within living things only continues to exist as long as there is a continuous input of energy.
If the input of energy ceases the information contained in the life form also ceases to exist while its constituent parts (atoms) will remain but without any info about the living being they were once a part of.
YouTube - Peggy Lee -- Is That All There Is? 1969
Best to be played underwater:
‘FLOAT! Thinktank 21′, The Weightless Out Of The World Experience | Elite Choice
BTW, I blame Steve for one of my motorcycle crashes, I got carried away. That scene from The Great Escape played a big part, no doubt about it.
Best to be played underwater:
‘FLOAT! Thinktank 21′, The Weightless Out Of The World Experience | Elite Choice
BTW, I blame Steve for one of my motorcycle crashes, I got carried away. That scene from The Great Escape played a big part, no doubt about it.
You missed the point. There ARE numerous wonderful people on this forum. Just because they argue a lot sometimes and loose their cool doesn't mean they aren't wonderful ! It's because they are wonderful they still stick together ! So you shouldn't realy be surprised when they really open up their wonderful inner self.
It's great being here ! I'm sure almost as great as it will be on the other side? We could try to achieve that.
I have a cousin who has been in debt a long time. He's careless with monetary matters . He's a really wonderful person and is ALWAYS cheerful. He also has various ailments that he never talks about. Most ( very close) rich relatives steer clear of him just in case he asks for funds ! They never seem to realise what a wonderful person he is. Mom and I discussed this a lot. So we decided that when our next monetary gain arrived we would clear all his debts for him. Unfortunately she's left and I will do it without her being here. I just hope she can see from where ever she is that the plan was put to work.
I've realised that if we want to do something useful for others it must be done now. Delaying it might not help at all. Doing something good for others always leaves a 'wonderful afterglow' that lasts a long time ( eternity ? ) !
Bless you all !
Cheers.
I really can't see what the connection is between a brain and a hologram! Apart from that when you destroy them they cease to exist beyond the realm of the atomic.
"if the whole hologram is destroyed then the universe assimilates the information in the fields surrounding the holographic medium"
By what method does the universe assimilate the information?
What fields?
I'm sorry but I have to say that this a whole new branch of physics being talked about that I, nor I expect anybody else, has any familiarity with.
"if the whole hologram is destroyed then the universe assimilates the information in the fields surrounding the holographic medium"
By what method does the universe assimilate the information?
What fields?
I'm sorry but I have to say that this a whole new branch of physics being talked about that I, nor I expect anybody else, has any familiarity with.
Correct me if I am wrong...but I was under the impression that " The Lounge " was a place to talk about things that were way off topic from what the forum normally discusses.
Cheers.
There is no way we will know any of this without actually doing it. akin to building amps/audio , you don't know til' you power it up.
I almost died in 12/15/90 , or so I was told. So clearly I can remember yelling at the doctors while looking down at me and them. They did not respond to my (phantom) insistence that they did not "put me under". When I finally woke 2 days later , I described what I saw and they asked me "how do you know this ? " . I still don't know , but I did not "go under" and witnessed the operation to bring me back from my car wreck.
So , I am inclined to believe there is something beyond physical existence by actually experiencing a real event. It is a permanent memory that will be with me until death.
OS
I almost died in 12/15/90 , or so I was told. So clearly I can remember yelling at the doctors while looking down at me and them. They did not respond to my (phantom) insistence that they did not "put me under". When I finally woke 2 days later , I described what I saw and they asked me "how do you know this ? " . I still don't know , but I did not "go under" and witnessed the operation to bring me back from my car wreck.
So , I am inclined to believe there is something beyond physical existence by actually experiencing a real event. It is a permanent memory that will be with me until death.
OS
For the skeptical , they will never believe till something happens to them and that will not happen to all of them. However everyone will experience it at the end of life but unfortunately will not be able to come back and describe the experience to the others.
It doesn't matter really. Either you believe or not or keep an open mind.
We will be our own solution when the time comes.........!
Cheers.
It doesn't matter really. Either you believe or not or keep an open mind.
We will be our own solution when the time comes.........!
Cheers.
For the skeptical , they will never believe till something happens to them and that will not happen to all of them. However everyone will experience it at the end of life but unfortunately will not be able to come back and describe the experience to the others.
It doesn't matter really. Either you believe or not or keep an open mind.
We will be our own solution when the time comes.........!
Cheers.
I did the NDE thing. I do not believe it was anything other than physical brain stuff. I mean, just day-to-day consciousness is mind boggling, but there's no doubt that it goes away when the brain is anesthetized. To quote the great philosopher Porky Pine, "Don't take life too serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent."
well - I died at least 3 times in my dream
felt every bloody part of physical in it ;
regarding mental side of it - I just felt sorrow , for leaving dear ones ..... but also many things I enjoy
morning was not so much revelation as I reckon it must be , but more just remembering of event
so - finally - going away can't be so big thing , at least not for one who's going
felt every bloody part of physical in it ;
regarding mental side of it - I just felt sorrow , for leaving dear ones ..... but also many things I enjoy
morning was not so much revelation as I reckon it must be , but more just remembering of event
so - finally - going away can't be so big thing , at least not for one who's going
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