6N16 Valve break-in time

[tazzo]

Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

 

[avp1]

Hi all

I'm new here.

I just got my solid state Yamaha A-S500 amp upgraded with Elna Silmic 2 capacitors and two dual triode 6N16 valves.

Does anyone know the burn in time for the triodes, and the capacitors, and how much better does it sound after break-in time?

Look forward to replies, and thanks in advance.

I wouldn't consider adding mini-tubes as upgrade, but rather degrade. Considering what your Yamaha is, do not expect any change from swapping capacitors.

 

[tazzo]

It does sound warmer and smoother than before, and the bass is tighter also.

 

[Wavebourn]

Which tubes were there before you installed 6N16B there?

How big is B+, how much on anodes?

I can't see any valves there:

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

 

[tazzo]

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

 

[Wavebourn]

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

 

[avp1]

There were no tubes before the subminature ones were installed.

I don't know what B+ means or how much is on the anode power supply.

I know that Nichson 680uf for 250V was used on the anode power supply

Sorry for lack of info, I had the work done by an engineer.

6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

 

[tazzo]

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

 

[Wavebourn]

6n16b are Russian made mini tubes designed for applications where weight and space are limited. Their parameters are worse than ones of regular sized tubes. And in case of Yamaha they can't add anything other than distortion. I once saw radar system made on these type of tubes, but it was mobile station manufactured in early 1960th. And if I recall correctly they are limited to 100 volts at plate.

Which parameters are worse? And worse than parameters of which tube?

 

[Michael Koster]

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

 

[chrish]

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

I would have thought with 680uF and 250 volts, it would be 163 minutes. I would advise using music you don't enjoy for the break-in though. That way, when you put the music you do like on after break-in, it will sound better.

 

[TonyTecson]

Then you probably need 144 minutes of the music that you enjoy to break-in.

nah, too short.... make that 156 minutes....

 

[chrish]

Darn, I forgot. Small tubes require less time

 

[Junm]

i like these tubes though....cute and good sounding for me...not far from 6n1p...

 

[tazzo]

Cheers for the help guys!