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Who here has experimented with ferrite split core filters applied to system power/signal/speaker cables and taken very close listen to the effects ?.

Who here has experimented with Bybee filters applied to system power/signal/speaker cables and taken very close listen to the effects ?.

Dan.

Neither have I tried flying off the roof wearing a Batman suit. Some experiments don't have to be conducted in order to know their outcomes.
 
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Who here has experimented with ferrite split core filters applied to system power/signal/speaker cables and taken very close listen to the effects ?.

Who here has experimented with Bybee filters applied to system power/signal/speaker cables and taken very close listen to the effects ?.

Dan.

Who here has promised to post files that sound different and to have them posted them before now?
 
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Who here has experimented .

I think you are doing a disservice to those who actually understand how to do experiments. You are not experimenting. You are glomming. Randomly in most cases. If you were experimenting you would have a test method and expected outcomes you could post to show how things have developed over the couple of years you have been posting about your magic filters that rock stars and mixing engineers can clearly hear.

But you haven't so we all have to assume the little boy is crying wolf again.
 
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Max Headroom said:
Right now there are a handful of guys in the warehouse prepping/packing down the next show and grooving to the now treated audio system.
Their preference is abundantly clear, and from this has come offer to run the experiment of treating the biggest club system in town.
This is set to be a fun blind trial on an unsuspecting audience, the results will be interesting.
Are you seriously expecting us to regard drunken nighttime revellers as being in a fit state to deliver a considered opinion on audio quality in a warehouse?
 
I share my experience and findings in order that between us we can come up with explanation for deep underlying properties of systems that can be altered at will.
This doesn't touch "deep underlying properties" but many people here have experiences with altering system behaviour at will. They use a magick called DSP.
Who here has experimented with ferrite split core filters applied to system power/signal/speaker cables and taken very close listen to the effects ?.

Charles Hansen and others describe ferrite as damaging to sound reproduction, I fully agree.
Power and signal, yes. No effect for audio, objectivly or subjectivly.
Speaker cables, no. I just assumed I didn't have any issues there and also that in the associated impedance range it wouldn't matter.

Who is Charles Hansen?
 
Thanks for the info. I can't wait to finally be over circuit design, horn profiles, room acoustics and all that peasant stuff to finally break through to the goop level where things really happen.

As it is bordering on engineering it is clearly off topic, buuuut, I use ferrite beads on high transconductance tubes (E55L and the likes that start to oscillate if you look at them...) where it is an effective method to damp hf oscillation. Which is audible.
 
Who here has promised to post files that sound different and to have them posted them before now?
Yes Mark I did promise and I will uphold that promise.
Like I said I am awaiting particular ingredients in order to repeat experiments from way back which caused distinctly disturbing sound signature in analog domain.
When I have completed these experiments I should be in position to post three comparison files.
My intention based on experience is to produce two files that locally play strongly differently in addition to the download/rip reference file.
After then collectively we can run an experiment of file upload/download to determine if the differences statistically 'stick' despite an unknown/random array of data transfer mediums and random times....in my and others experience difference can indeed store/propagate/transfer.

One of the guys at work presented a thumb drive this afternoon and has gone home with three files.....his original file, one copied back from my HD via direct connection, and the same HD file transferred via treated usb mf extender.
He was in a rush so we had opportunity for very brief listen back but he did pick and describe some differences immediately.
I will get report from him when I work with him on Friday.
Are you seriously expecting us to regard drunken nighttime revellers as being in a fit state to deliver a considered opinion on audio quality in a warehouse?
EDIT:...Right now there are a handful of guys in the warehouse prepping/packing down the next show and grooving to the now treated warehouse audio system.
The guys run radio, phones or internet streaming playlists into the 'shop' Yamaha receiver and semi-respectable cheapo 6.5" 2 ways, playing all kinds of stuff while they are working daytime on putting together hire big stage lighting rigs.

One of these guys runs lights at a city dance music nightclub that has the biggest/'baddest'/badass club DJ system in town so I am told.
I am further told that revellers seek out this club because of this sound system and also that there are disclaimers at the entry regarding high SPL and hearing damage.
I have not been to this venue yet, so I have no real knowledge of the audio system except brief description that there is full height high power stack at each corner of the dance floor.
Description of the sound from this work fellow is that the system is loud, pounding and it gets harsh, ear bleeding/tinnitus harsh.

DF, my 'technique' ameliorates subjective harshness essentially totally...systems subjectively essentially do not, will not and cannot get harsh.
This is big claims for sure and seemingly 'out there', but this is what I and others repeatedly find....I have self unproven theory involving biological reasons why this may be so.

This reported harshness and pounding and potential of hearing damage is of concern for the welfare of our next generations I believe.

Dan.
 
Thanks for the info. I can't wait to finally be over circuit design, horn profiles, room acoustics and all that peasant stuff to finally break through to the goop level where things really happen.
Your wish is true.
As it is bordering on engineering it is clearly off topic, buuuut, I use ferrite beads on high transconductance tubes (E55L and the likes that start to oscillate if you look at them...) where it is an effective method to damp hf oscillation. Which is audible.
Engineering reasons is why we consider and implement solutions such as ferrite filters....I'm just sayin' that ferrites can cause an identifiable signature.
Elements cause individually identifiable signatures, mixtures of elements and compounds modulate/moderate/filter/determine signatures.
There are key ingredients, and there are moderator ingredients and there are modulator ingredients.
So go to it, there is choice of 100+ elements and near infinite number of compounds available to combine in an infinite range of ratios and proportions.
With science the list is narrowed and ideal solution already found.

Dan.
 
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Max Headroom said:
DF, my 'technique' ameliorates subjective harshness essentially totally...systems subjectively essentially do not, will not and cannot get harsh.
This is big claims for sure and seemingly 'out there', but this is what I and others repeatedly find....I have self unproven theory involving biological reasons why this may be so.
I am pleased to hear that you are no longer claiming new physics as the explanation. It is now over to the biologists to put you straight.

Elements cause individually identifiable signatures, mixtures of elements and compounds modulate/moderate/filter/determine signatures.
There are key ingredients, and there are moderator ingredients and there are modulator ingredients.
Ok, we have now slipped from biology into alchemy. Is there an alchemist in the house?
 
Hi Soongsc.
Yes, if a few here were to speak to me directly they would likely gain a very different understanding to that which I can only briefly put into words here.
Their attitude would likely change from one of derision, to one of true wonderment....

Mr Nezbleu, if you are to slander me would you please be accurate in your assertions, my comment is referring to wonderment of physics.
I believe apology is in order.

Since nobody here has expressed "derision" towards physics, with the exception of yourself, I fail to see how one could take your statement about "wonderment" to be about physics, rather than you. If I have failed to parse your earlier statement correctly, and as a result mischaracterized your meaning, then I apologise, but please be more careful with your wording in the future and try to make your meaning clear.

None of this changes what I said about your belief that personal interaction (not mere words, but presumably not math either) would allow you to persuade others about the efficacy of your devices. Everything you post here shows that you are extremely susceptible to suggestion, to the point that every time you change something even near your audio equipment you hear a change in the sound quality. Most of us mere mortals do not hear these kinds of changes.
 
I’m new here. I’ve been reading this thread and getting quite a few chuckles with some of the postings. I’m a pragmatist and it still surprises me that people can be sold on some of the most outlandish ideas that serve no other purpose than to make someone else a buck...e.g., recently I was on the website for Gibson guitars and saw that they were promoting their brand of guitar polish as “Tone Polish”. Yep. Using their brand would make ones guitar sound better. No, that’s what practicing does.
 
I am pleased to hear that you are no longer claiming new physics as the explanation.
I have never claimed new physics, I have however stated that standard physics seems not to explain all.
The standard modern Maxwell equations I believe are not the complete picture and dumbed down by deleting factors that were deemed insignificant by Heaviside.
It is now over to the biologists to put you straight.
Study of ear mechanism and internal ear compounds and elements provides the answer.

Dan.
 
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