What's interesting in that sentence is that it implicitly relies on the existence of an actual phenomenon we agree to call "red".
With snake oil products, we're still looking for those phenomenon we could use as a basis for discussion. In other words, we don't need at first an explanation of how a bybee works. We first need a proof that it impacts the physical world, beside firing up one's imagination by its mere presence. It still has to come...
So no, I didn't listen to any fire hydrants. (gotta say I'm happy you used that image though). But I have listened to a LOT of amplifiers, sources, speakers, etc. etc. Curious that you seem to think listening to fire hydrants is a good avenue since, ahem, I never suggested it was. Read again, I'm not interested in "objective" data when I want to LISTEN to music.
The point is that fire hydrant in your room plonked on the floor will have more measurable affect on the sound that cable directionality, Max's goop or Soong's cable directions.
It wouldn't be snake oil if it was measureable
Wasn't imported snake oil sold by units of quarts, pints, or gills?
All measurable.
"Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them"
Obi Wan Kenobi
Probably the Force informed him there was a disturbance in the room's reflections, after he noticed the glass was moved.
Exiting after the first of many viewings of Star Wars' first run, I asked a pal who worked in the theatre, what's Dolby Stereo?
He said something about sound coming from things offscreen, and tracking it back to front.
I said , like in the opening fight, with that huge triangle ship!
He said he guessed so, but the Stardust Theatre was just mono sound. And laughed at me, saying "In Dolby Stereo where available" read the whole credit!
My first experience with interpolation, and the marketplace.
The lineups never really died down, below 2 blocks for a month, then ramped up when the theatre upgraded to surround sound.
The owners figured out they could pack the theatres again, with an upgraded film and higher ticket prices, decades before Peter Jackson figured out he could sell extended versions of his original films, for still more profit.
But even real surround sound didn't compare with that first Imperial flyover, with its imaginary surround sound panning.
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Last night I thought about Peter Belt. I'm too lazy to do a search if he already came up in this thread but he should have. His wife and business partner has been qoted ""It has always been perception" which puts him in a different category.
One of the things that happened last night when I tried his PostIt tweak while listening to Amebix is this:
Beers might have been involved.
One of the things that happened last night when I tried his PostIt tweak while listening to Amebix is this:
Beers might have been involved.
Last night I thought about Peter Belt.
Beers might have been involved.
He has passed on but May carries on. IIRC she came up a while back in a quote claiming that nothing about the audio signals is changed by their tweeks just the listeners perception. So there's nothing to measure which solves a lot of problems. There was a well known designer (who shall go unnamed) that liked a six pack before "serious" listening.
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Max (Dan) once sent me a file to listen to that he had somehow "processed." He must have passed it through some circuitry of some kind because it certainly sounded modified in some way.
What it sounded like to me was undithered bit-depth reduction of some kind.
Depending on how people perceive some kinds of noise, it occurs to me that that it might sound to some people like some random noise had been removed and replaced by synthesized harmonics.
Perhaps in terms of harmonic synthesis, it was intended to sound something like BBE Sonic Maximizer. Except, the file I heard from Dan sounded much more grainy than BBE does, at least to me.
Maybe with some lo-fi consumer equipment some people might like it better than the original sound file, especially if it was applied to low bit-rate mp3 or something like that.
Regarding claims of altering sound by putting non-magnetic materials in the vicinity of circuitry, I don't think the file I heard could have been produced by such means. But, however it was produced, it definitely sounded modified in some way.
What it sounded like to me was undithered bit-depth reduction of some kind.
Depending on how people perceive some kinds of noise, it occurs to me that that it might sound to some people like some random noise had been removed and replaced by synthesized harmonics.
Perhaps in terms of harmonic synthesis, it was intended to sound something like BBE Sonic Maximizer. Except, the file I heard from Dan sounded much more grainy than BBE does, at least to me.
Maybe with some lo-fi consumer equipment some people might like it better than the original sound file, especially if it was applied to low bit-rate mp3 or something like that.
Regarding claims of altering sound by putting non-magnetic materials in the vicinity of circuitry, I don't think the file I heard could have been produced by such means. But, however it was produced, it definitely sounded modified in some way.
Question. Is the difference in sound quality of a DAC being powered by a toroidal transformer and one being powered by an E-Core transformer. Is that snake oil? or is that founded in science.
I mean sure its founded in science because there are differences in the way magnetic fields are arranged in both transformers. But why does an E-core sound more natural? The toroidal sounds much more artificial.
I mean sure its founded in science because there are differences in the way magnetic fields are arranged in both transformers. But why does an E-core sound more natural? The toroidal sounds much more artificial.
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But not as much as the blend of your AC, for instance mine has hydroelectric, natural gas, and up to 8% of nuclear power plant generated. Some say single solar power converted to AC is very pure, however lacks character and that smokey flavor finish.
Toroidals are very wideband and let through all kinds of mains junk. I never used them for signal level equipment. Use them for power amps because of price issues, mainly.
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