John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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So, was that a killer blow that one delivers in a debate, perhaps?

No, it's just the recognition that some people aren't wired for rational, logical thought and when they can't recognize something as blatant as this article is built upon, then there's just no hope of explaining it and getting them to understand it.

Best I can do is recommend you read up on "non sequitur," and if after reading the article again, you still don't "get it," you simply never will.

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Poor dumb us. If you are so smart SE, why don't you write papers and do research?

Why? What has that to do with anything I've said?

Why don't you own any significant test equipment?

Again, what has that to do with anything I've said?

I think the article is OK, too. Poor me! '-(

Yes. Poor anyone who doesn't see the industrial strength non sequitur of that article. its not often that you come across stuff that's so blatant. That you can't see it just demonstrates that you're not very good with rational, logical thought. That's consistent with your asking why I don't write research papers or have "significant test equipment." You obviously can't see how irrelevant it is.

The frustrating part is that people whose brains are wired this way simply can't understand it so there's no way to "fix" it.

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I think the nub of the argument is here:

Either they are perfect (or perfectly worthless) or they are not. If they are either perfect or perfectly without effect, they must all sound exactly the same, and if they are not perfect or its opposite, UNLESS THEY ARE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME DEGREE OF IMPERFECT, IN EXACTLY THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS—a circumstance that, given the wild differences in the nature, design, materials, and construction of the products in question, I can't imagine anybody believing to be possible—THEY WILL SOUND DIFFERENT!
Am I correct?
 
I think the nub of the argument is here:

Am I correct?

Pretty much, yes.

Skoff claims that if a cable is anything less than perfect, it will be heard. However the underlying premise behind that claim is that human hearing is also perfect and without limit.

So if you believe that human hearing is in fact not perfect, which you stated you did, then Skoff's argument falls under its own weight of illogical nonsense.

A cable does not need to be perfect to be audibly transparent, it only needs to be "less imperfect" than human hearing. Which has been the case for about a century or more.

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Skoff claims that if a cable is anything less than perfect, it will be heard. However the underlying premise behind that claim is that human hearing is also perfect and without limit.
Okay, you could "get" Skoff for not being a touch more precise, and saying that "it can be heard, by some people, under some circumstances". Having dealt myself with that very issue from my earliest days, that is, that the cable connection can be "heard" if it is not sufficiently "perfect" I understood what he was saying. And how I get around it is by making the cable link sufficiently "perfect", so that it's no longer part of the problem.

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A cable does not need to be perfect to be audibly transparent, it only needs to be "less imperfect" than human hearing. Which has been the case for about a century or more.
And I agree. The argument is, what is the level of competence needed for the cable link, for that to be the case.
 
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