If you still have a record of PM's, and care to check the one I sent you on 2013-06-04, this was my guesstimate of the samples.
Sure, I'll yell at you. But you know to keep the samples short, and maybe you've not had it crash on you over and over, or give strange results.Care to yell at me?I've tried it a number of times.
I think it's cool software, but a little unstable. Certainly it could be improved, but I doubt Bill has the motivation to do so. I'm just happy it exists, flaws and all.
I don't use it much any more, might have to try it again.
I think everybody here would do themselves a great service if they learnt to listen to, and for distortion - the artifacts have various signatures, and once you become aware of them they scream at you, you can't help but hear them. Obviously, the downside is that you can never listen seriously to conventional audio again, it sounds too awful - but then you'll have the motivation to lift the standard to well beyond what's usually around, and reap the benefits ...
With statements like that, it's no wonder boutique power cables sell... That's quite possible the worst analogy I've heard to date.
~Tom
Cool? - boy, do you have low standards!! The flaws are just too overwhelming, I have zero confidence in it as a serious tool - something to fool around with perhaps for amusement and that's about it. Having deliberately spiked a sample of audio with differences, and then seeing if the software picked up something sensible, and having it fail dismally every time means it's totally inadequate for serious use.I think it's cool software, but a little unstable. Certainly it could be improved, but I doubt Bill has the motivation to do so. I'm just happy it exists, flaws and all.
A short while ago I kicked off an attempt to create an intelligent alternative - but as usual for me I got side-tracked,
, and it's still sitting in the ToDo bin ...
What are the benefits?
I'm curious to know.
When I listen seriously, I listen to the music that is being played and how it is being played. I'm not mainly concerned with any "illusions of being there" with audio (or video) reproduction. I never have been, and I've been spinning records since about age 5. It's fine for others, I've no problem with it, but your downside is just too drastic for my liking.
I'm curious to know.
When I listen seriously, I listen to the music that is being played and how it is being played. I'm not mainly concerned with any "illusions of being there" with audio (or video) reproduction. I never have been, and I've been spinning records since about age 5. It's fine for others, I've no problem with it, but your downside is just too drastic for my liking.
Pano, I am looking forward very much to the mud test v.2.0. The original one should already become a debunk evergreen, so expectations are high.
As to the digital sparkles, it is just the error correction mechanism kicking in when the original signal can no longer be reconstructed because of drop outs. The same can happen with digital audio, and I am sure you have experienced it on some bad cd's. It sounds ranging from soft clicks to complete hiccups and is quite discernable. Up to that point, however, many bits may be twisted or missing, and the original bitstream can be reconstructed without any audible effect. The reason being that the reconstruction is identical to the original.
That is how I understand the theory and it fits with my experience. This brings me on your bad spdif cable. I really would like to know how this can happen. But first we have to establish that indeed this cable creates audible artifacts. Would it be possible for you to post two files, one with the bad, and one with a good cable to allow for some abxing?
As to the digital sparkles, it is just the error correction mechanism kicking in when the original signal can no longer be reconstructed because of drop outs. The same can happen with digital audio, and I am sure you have experienced it on some bad cd's. It sounds ranging from soft clicks to complete hiccups and is quite discernable. Up to that point, however, many bits may be twisted or missing, and the original bitstream can be reconstructed without any audible effect. The reason being that the reconstruction is identical to the original.
That is how I understand the theory and it fits with my experience. This brings me on your bad spdif cable. I really would like to know how this can happen. But first we have to establish that indeed this cable creates audible artifacts. Would it be possible for you to post two files, one with the bad, and one with a good cable to allow for some abxing?
Such arrogance
(one of your inevitable smileys) I spent the last few hours listening to Maria Callas, the Debussy string quartet, Mahler 5, and, when a friend came in, the best of Simon & Garfunkel.
It was all WONDERFUL and I could not detect any screaming. I am sorry you have such terrible self inflicted problems but please don't assume they apply to anyone else but you. I observe your antics with pity and a gentle shake of the head.
Very appropriate for this thread.
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things?language=en#t-312987
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things?language=en#t-312987
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Frank, have you upgraded from your aldi tv and pc speakers already? Or is that the sort of unconventional audio you would like us all to listen to?
Makes me wonder, why bother? The trolls have the upper hand, time to wait them out.
Fair enough. You're listening as a musician does, and that of course is perfectly valid. I listen to the texture of the sound, how it fills the air, I'm after the "musician with blindfold on is taken into the room and still doesn't pick that he is not listening to a live instrument" illusion.
If you're content with the sound you're getting that's fine ... but there are quite a lot of people who have realised, on occasion, that it is possible to get a very high standard of replay - I'm just decribing a technique, my technique, for achieving that on a consistent basis.
High standard only for them (you). I'd bet many of them using your technique will end up with uneven FR, more distortion, etc. because that's what sounds good to them. Thats not "hi-fi".
It was not a great metaphor. My intent was to convey the last power cord would only carry an audible change if plugged into some device which alters the power, such as a regenerator, choke, dc blocker, parallel filter, etc.
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