Help with 8 inch Sun fire woofer based tapped horn please?
Gday I just picked these up on impulse because prolly my medication was off or hopefully I was right in thinking these where too cheap to let go. Here they are. Sunfire Junior Subwoofer -Driver Only | eBay apparrently the seller has 2 not 4 available so ideas of a push pull tapped horn are out. He does have more 10' and 12's for 150 each which is getting to expensive for me. Though a 12 inch tapped horn does sound like a nice option using these sunfire type woofers.
I guess my biggest problem is that I will not be able to get factory specs. I thought maybe I can build a tapped horn. But I would need help with the design. I am also worried that they may even be motional feedback voice coils making them useless. I thought there might be a reason why I got them so cheap.
SUNFIRE: True Sub Super Junior - TS-SJ8
Do you think you good folks help me design a tapped horn for them? Are they even suitable? I will just make a pair of small sealed subs for PC use if they are not suitable for tapped horns.
Gday I just picked these up on impulse because prolly my medication was off or hopefully I was right in thinking these where too cheap to let go. Here they are. Sunfire Junior Subwoofer -Driver Only | eBay apparrently the seller has 2 not 4 available so ideas of a push pull tapped horn are out. He does have more 10' and 12's for 150 each which is getting to expensive for me. Though a 12 inch tapped horn does sound like a nice option using these sunfire type woofers.
I guess my biggest problem is that I will not be able to get factory specs. I thought maybe I can build a tapped horn. But I would need help with the design. I am also worried that they may even be motional feedback voice coils making them useless. I thought there might be a reason why I got them so cheap.
SUNFIRE: True Sub Super Junior - TS-SJ8
Do you think you good folks help me design a tapped horn for them? Are they even suitable? I will just make a pair of small sealed subs for PC use if they are not suitable for tapped horns.
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Tapped Horns These 6.5 inch tagband I think folded horns what I would like to build. Just a slightly larger pair with hopfully a smidge more hiend. The low end is fine.
This seller does does have 10 and 12 inch drivers of the same contruction for 150 each.
This seller does does have 10 and 12 inch drivers of the same contruction for 150 each.
The motion feedback shouldn't make them useless, as far as I know, most of them just use a piezo pickup mounted to the coil, or a small secondary coil. It should be a functional driver whether it's present or not.
The problem you're going to have is not having proper specs for the driver, which is what you're going to require to model a TH for it.
They do look a bit like Hi-Vi drivers though.
The problem you're going to have is not having proper specs for the driver, which is what you're going to require to model a TH for it.
They do look a bit like Hi-Vi drivers though.
The motion feedback shouldn't make them useless, as far as I know, most of them just use a piezo pickup mounted to the coil, or a small secondary coil. It should be a functional driver whether it's present or not.
The problem you're going to have is not having proper specs for the driver, which is what you're going to require to model a TH for it.
They do look a bit like Hi-Vi drivers though.
Yea They Do. I couldn't get the 4 but I did get 2 or it looks like I will. Its a shame 4 would make a good ppsl cab too I would think. Perhaps I can just scale up volvo's TH design to take an 8 inch driver.
Perhaps I can just scale up volvo's TH design to take an 8 inch driver.
You can try, but it's going to be trial and error without modelling it using proper specs.
Just a thought, fatbattery... but I bought a WT3 from partsexpress for $99 which measures the parameters you need for a full design. No reason to guess. Weren't Sunfire (Carver) enclosure designs ELF?
Whats elf. Is it something that going to render my new speakers worthless?
http://www.sunfire.com/whitepapers/Sunfire_Subwoofer_Whitepaper.pdf lol I an not even going to open them. what a waste of money.
If I remember, they have multiple coils, like the earlier tc sounds.
That way you don't have a really long coil that can char the ends, or the coil not hanging in the magnet.
I'd heard a few of the 8's.
They went deep, but had no output in my mind.
But the box was small compared to a velodyne or definitive anyway.
I'd rather have multiple larger drivers barely moving (less distortion) than a small driver really flying back and forth. As you double the drivers, for the same volume excursion is halved, and distortion drops to 1/4.
Norman
That way you don't have a really long coil that can char the ends, or the coil not hanging in the magnet.
I'd heard a few of the 8's.
They went deep, but had no output in my mind.
But the box was small compared to a velodyne or definitive anyway.
I'd rather have multiple larger drivers barely moving (less distortion) than a small driver really flying back and forth. As you double the drivers, for the same volume excursion is halved, and distortion drops to 1/4.
Norman
If I remember, they have multiple coils, like the earlier tc sounds.
That way you don't have a really long coil that can char the ends, or the coil not hanging in the magnet.
I'd heard a few of the 8's.
They went deep, but had no output in my mind.
But the box was small compared to a velodyne or definitive anyway.
I'd rather have multiple larger drivers barely moving (less distortion) than a small driver really flying back and forth. As you double the drivers, for the same volume excursion is halved, and distortion drops to 1/4.
Norman
Yea Norman It was a literal impulse buy. Found then in the last 6 minutes and they seemed cheap. And All so for a completely different approach. I have for the last 8 years been buying Richard Allan cg10's and a few 12's and a pair of cg10t's and 8t's.
But the cg10's I have been collecting for a array.I have lost count to be honest but I think I have 8 or maybe as many as 12. Ever body says I cant do any tapped horn but thought maybe I could do a tapped horn in push pull with the 10 or the 12's. I do have 4 of the 12's. They are lovely drivers for what they sell for used. But you do get a few duds off ebay I find. Here are some specs.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/atta...ers-t-s-parameters-attached-richard-allan.gif
Any potential here? I have the cg12 supers and normals.So maybe I have 6 12's
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