Noooooooooo!
All I'm trying to say is that in the right circumstances, like when my wife is doing her exercises in the bedroom and puts on the tunes, that there is 'enough' sound coming from these guys that I haven't bothered to add a woofer to the system. I have lots of bass units just gathering dust, but lo and behold, they sound just fine.
Don't worry guys, I'm not heading to the dark side.
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Noooooooooo!
All I'm trying to say is that in the right circumstances, like when my wife is doing her exercises in the bedroom and puts on the tunes, that there is 'enough' sound coming from these guys that I haven't bothered to add a woofer to the system. I have lots of bass units just gathering dust, but lo and behold, they sound just fine.
Don't worry guys, I'm not heading to the dark side.
Could I see the backs and bottoms of those cabinets
. I am also a certified fitness instructor 
I am sure, they will work fine with MP3. http://files.diyaudio.com/forums/images/smilies/silly.gif They are a good excuse to really focus on smoothing diffraction and eq networks without the luxury of the other two drivers needed. Worthwhile in building experience.
Could I see the backs and bottoms of those cabinets
The back and the bottom have very smooth, attractive lines.
This must be proved with the appropriate documentation or ... it's just not so.The back and the bottom have very smooth, attractive lines.
Back to the OP … I've used a small (4") full-range single driver for ages and found it very satisfying at lower levels, in the right cabinet. The cabinet made a difference - it sounding better balanced in some rather than others. Passive EQ (or BSC) helped too, in some cases.
The only amplifier problem I had was with the tiddly T-Amp which sounded awful through it.
The single driver system is now in the bedroom and works great there. But for scale and dynamics, I've moved onto multi-way speakers - specifically an active two-way, which gets rid of all the amplifier/cable debate in one go. The only thing I feel that it lacks, compared to the single driver, is the pin-point imaging. It's very good but not quite in the same class.
But single drivers are good fun and great from a DIY standpoint, where you can explore without too much additional complexity.
The only amplifier problem I had was with the tiddly T-Amp which sounded awful through it.
The single driver system is now in the bedroom and works great there. But for scale and dynamics, I've moved onto multi-way speakers - specifically an active two-way, which gets rid of all the amplifier/cable debate in one go. The only thing I feel that it lacks, compared to the single driver, is the pin-point imaging. It's very good but not quite in the same class.
But single drivers are good fun and great from a DIY standpoint, where you can explore without too much additional complexity.
and of course depending on the XO frequency /slope, adds one more "talking point" - i.e. the "ideal configuration" thereof
FWIW, I recently did a refinishing job on a 25+yr old pair of small Meridian 2-way active speakers , and it reminded me of how far things may have advanced in this particular niche- with systems like MiniDSP and digital amps, the XO / EQ and even room correction can be dialed-in in-situ - certainly very appealing.
The back and the bottom have very smooth, attractive lines.
Are the bottoms and backs sealed
?Are the bottoms and backs sealed
this can't go well for much longer, so I may as well say
"not sealed", doesn't mean "available on demand"
Hey, if someone can realize a foot of cable is just as insignificant in the big picture as 10 feet, we have made progress! Of course, then we open the can or worms on how the internal amps can't match what the better external amps do......
Hey, if someone can realize a foot of cable is just as insignificant in the big picture as 10 feet, we have made progress! Of course, then we open the can or worms on how the internal amps can't match what the better external amps do......
sarcasm alert:
This is easy - as soon as we can find consensus on which is "better", the 10 (or more feet) of signal cable(s) from source/ pre-amp/ external crossovers to the on-board amp(s), or fewer / shorter interconnects, longer speaker level cabling and passive XOs, then the matter could be settled conclusively.
sarcasm alert:
This is easy - as soon as we can find consensus on which is "better", the 10 (or more feet) of signal cable(s) from source/ pre-amp/ external crossovers to the on-board amp(s), or fewer / shorter interconnects, longer speaker level cabling and passive XOs, then the matter could be settled conclusively.
I just want to see how to package a pair of Pass Labs 100W class A amps in a bookshelf speaker! I'll settle for a fully tweaked DH-220.
If the active speaker is properly designed as a system, the amps are matched to the drivers and the cable is all of 20 cms, so even if you worry about the cables making a difference, it isn't going to do much compared to several metres of the stuff.
The amplifiers are driving a known impedance so there is less requirement for brute force, high current, etc - so theoretically they can be better than external amplifiers for lower cost.
From the end user pov, there is nothing to fiddle with unless you're modding or doing a restoration.
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So you are talking about an active powered speaker. An active speaker does not require the amps be in the speaker box -- a design choice that puts the amplifiers in an environment that is not beneficial to them.
dave
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