Hypex Ncore

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What happens is that it takes longer time to charge the mains side capacitors, and yes - the inrush current is limited.

Sure, but my concern is about what happens when the SMPS goes from "the input voltage is too low, so I should not be on" to turning on and putting a load on the caps. Will the voltage drop below the switch-on voltage because the caps aren't being fed enough current to sustain operation, leading to oscillation? All depends on the hysteresis of the SMPS.
 
Unlikely. You will have to draw a lot of current from the SMPS instantly for that to happen, which will not happen anyway because the SMPS600 also have a turn-on delay for the secondary side; it has its own internal "soft-start".

Ah, OK, thanks! Didn't know enough about the design of the SMPS600, and have had nasty experiences powering up computer SMPS's in current-limited systems (badly designed backup power supply systems).
 
I have received my two sets of n-core 400 and smps 600 last week, and assembled them this week.
One of them is working pefectly, but the other one worked for just a brief moment. There was sound, but is was intermittent, every 1 sec it was interupted. After some time, there was a click of the smps and since it has been clicking so far (every 2 sec; no lights on nc 400). The SMPS disconnected and powerup just clikcs once, so seems ok.
So it seems it is in some sort of protection mode? DC I suppose?
How do I clear this error state?
I read some threads about not well calibrated dc in and out output and applying 3v to pin 1 and 2 (what does this do exactly?).
Can anyone share the instructions how to calibrate the DC setting (if that would help to solve the problem)?
I already contacted hypex, but no response yet (it is weekend, so I guess it will be next week).
Can't wait before I have two working n-cores!

Any tips/suggestions what I can do? Thanks in advance!

It appears I have the same issue here. With one working {95% of the time} and one having the same cutting in and out. I do notice on the amps that the third pot is not in the same location, for each amp. So I am assuming its an adjustment issue? I was in contact with Ncore last week and they asked me if I had a voltage tester, and that was the last I heard from them.
 
It appears I have the same issue here. With one working {95% of the time} and one having the same cutting in and out. I do notice on the amps that the third pot is not in the same location, for each amp. So I am assuming its an adjustment issue? I was in contact with Ncore last week and they asked me if I had a voltage tester, and that was the last I heard from them.

Had similar problems/ Without warranty here the procedure written up by Ian based on my experience:


My Understanding of Jos's comment.
1. To adjust the DC offset of the input op amp

No input connected
No output connected
nAmpon disabled (disconnected from Gnd or Hi)
Adjust R95 for 0v between NI input and Gnd ( J9, P2 and P4)
This is how I understood it (in practice I measured on the xlr connector (pin2 and pin 1) at the moment as the module was still in its case.

2 To adjust the output DC level.

No input connected
No output connected
nAmpon enabled ( connected to Gnd J9.P4)
Adjust R136 for 0v between output + and output -.
Right

3 To Calibrate the overvoltage

No input connected
No output connected
No DC power connected (No SMPS)
Apply 3.0v to the 5 pin Prog Header for a few seconds
P1 -ve P2 +ve (Pin one is near the red capacitors)
There are no adjustments to be made. ( I don't understand what is going on
inside the electronics, the 3v must be being used to charge a capacitor but
how does it hold its charge when power is removed - pass at the moment)
maybe some flash memory modified to tell the ncore the calibration is done ?
On power being re-established and nAMPON enabled the amp should switch on
right

WHAT DO YOU DO IF THIS DOES NOT WORK ?
try several time the recalibration, if not successful, I think the only way is to send back to hypex
 
:rolleyes: Lets see if the SMPS is better . In 2 weeks we will try. I do not believe Bruno is God as the rest of you.
I think everyone heard you the first time. I find myself failing to understand the logic of this: since you already know that Bruno is not the true God and NCORE is not the right religion (unlike the rest of us), what's the point in any further experimenting? I mean, let me take a wild guess and say that probably Al Qaeda hasn't turned into a Christian philanthropy organization as of yet.
 
I think everyone heard you the first time. I find myself failing to understand the logic of this: since you already know that Bruno is not the true God and NCORE is not the right religion (unlike the rest of us), what's the point in any further experimenting? I mean, let me take a wild guess and say that probably Al Qaeda hasn't turned into a Christian philanthropy organization as of yet.

aha
 
useful and full of substance comment Erlend, like always. not to forget humorous and interesting. keep up the good work and don't forget to let us know when you've finally proven that NCORE sucks :cheers:

I just finnished a much better amp. I do not say NCore is a bad amp . From upper midrange and treble it is for sure a very good amp. Maybee for basreflex the bass is ok too but not for my low Q system.
 
I've asked a bunch of times now but it seems nobody knows the answer. There are 3 pots on the ncore, the two close to each other adjust the input and output dc voltage offset, what does the 3rd one on the other side of the amp do?

I was told it was the "dead time" adjustment from a Mola Mola employee. How accurate was that answer being translated from German to English, :scratch1:.
 
Had similar problems/ Without warranty here the procedure written up by Ian based on my experience:


My Understanding of Jos's comment.
1. To adjust the DC offset of the input op amp

No input connected
No output connected
nAmpon disabled (disconnected from Gnd or Hi)
Adjust R95 for 0v between NI input and Gnd ( J9, P2 and P4)
This is how I understood it (in practice I measured on the xlr connector (pin2 and pin 1) at the moment as the module was still in its case.

2 To adjust the output DC level.

No input connected
No output connected
nAmpon enabled ( connected to Gnd J9.P4)
Adjust R136 for 0v between output + and output -.
Right

3 To Calibrate the overvoltage

No input connected
No output connected
No DC power connected (No SMPS)
Apply 3.0v to the 5 pin Prog Header for a few seconds
P1 -ve P2 +ve (Pin one is near the red capacitors)
There are no adjustments to be made. ( I don't understand what is going on
inside the electronics, the 3v must be being used to charge a capacitor but
how does it hold its charge when power is removed - pass at the moment)
maybe some flash memory modified to tell the ncore the calibration is done ?
On power being re-established and nAMPON enabled the amp should switch on
right

WHAT DO YOU DO IF THIS DOES NOT WORK ?
try several time the recalibration, if not successful, I think the only way is to send back to hypex

It is strange this tweaking is still necessary:

If I order now will I get my amp from the wk21 batch?
Do the amps from this batch still require DC tweaking?

If you order now, delivery is within two weeks. There is no DC tweaking necessary.

Maybe it is only true for units from batch wk21 and up?
 
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