What?? You can't name your kids Adolf Hitler??

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Setting your kid up to be a pariah (and a target of violence)
In that context, it's a little more difficult to determine the real little Hitler.
It isn't so much the name that bothers me (My parents were a bit like FZ in that regard.) But it does seem to fit together with the swastika tats and domestic violence into something that's best avoided for those more rational and civilized.

PS I guess it depends who you ask. To me FZ IS aristocracy :)
 
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What, and the naming itself isn't tantamount to abuse? How would you like to grow up with a burden like that?

At least one of the Scandinavian countries have a list of approved names. If the name isn't on the list you can't use it.

An approved list is a bit rich for my blood, but I still feel that there are far too many people just making up names. It's a dead giveaway. What my mother would have called LCV. No class. You don't get the aristocracy calling their kids Doohickey, or even (sorry Frank) Dweezle.

Lots of parents just make up names. Terdell, LaQuan, Shaquille, so many others. Should the children have been taken away?

As for doing what the aristocracy does, I thought we had a small disagreement with our good friends in Britain on this and a few other matters awhile back, (since patched up). :)
 
So a guy goes before the judge, and requests that he be granted a legal name change.
The judge skeptically asks, "Hmm, I'm not sure. What is your birth name?"
"Melvin Buzzardbreath," the man answers.
"Ah ha... well if I had an atrocious name like Melvin Buzzardbreath I would want to change it too," the judge says. "Certainly, then. What would you like to change your name to?"
"Herman Buzzardbreath," the man replies.
 
We're not talking about a "weird" name. We're talking about the name of one of the most powerful and destructive evil men of history, likely the most. A man responsible for tens of millions of deaths, whose name is a rallying point for some of the worst dregs of society there are.

Unique is one thing. I know I couldn't treat a kid named Adolph Hitler the same as anyone else- I'd be constantly looking for the evidence of hate in him/his upbringing.
 
I believe it is more about respect of the Law of US in the US.

If a kid has US Birth Certificate the Shop Rite has nor rights abuse a kid and must provide him with a cake with his official name as per US official document.

IMHO no matter what the Shop Rite must be punished badly for the serious harassment of a legal US Citizen.

If kid's parents are not wise it has to be addressed legally by the list of banned names or illegal combination.
 
Does anybody realy care... If they look after there kids well its nothing to do with anybody... I know we all like to think we live in a free country, but alas, none of us do.

Leave em alone give em back there kids and do something about the people who DO hurt kids.

None of us live in a vacuum. 'No man is an island, entire of itself'. Do you really imagine you can call your child Adolf Hitler without exposing him to a sh1tstorm of controversy? If you want to live in the eye of a hurricane you can do so. Sending your children there is another matter.

If you think you don't live in a free country why not try Syria?
 
OK...so if Adolph Hitler is verboten how do these score:

1. Joseph Stalin (semi-competitive with AH for millions slaughtered)
2. Genghis Khan (many fewer killed but broadcast his seed non-consensually across much of Eurasia)
3. Pol Pot (a few million disappeared on his watch)
4. Richard Nixon (a piker by comparison but still a douche)
5. Rosie O'Donnell (at least as big a douche as Nixon)
 
Actually a friend of mine has a cockerel called Hitler. You should see him strut. Mussolini was unfortunately killed by an ill-disciplined dog. Nobody who's heard these names has ever raised any objections.

It's an interesting list kevin, and it partly goes to show why there aren't any hard-and-fast rules I'd want to impose, but that doesn't stop me from exercising some common sense. We often try to control far too much by legislation because it relieves us of the responsibility for making judgement calls.
 
FoaF was named "Revolutionary Hope." I asked friend "yeah, but how did you address her in normal life. "Hope or Hopey." Hope is now part of some California sect where you have to change your last name to "Light". So she is now Revolutionary Hope Light. Which struck me as some sort of spy story passphrase. Or maybe OWS, now that I think about it.

But closer to the subject at hand. Some friends wanted to call their son "Hannibal" They got a letter from the Quebec civil registry (or whatever it's called) asking them to justify the name. They wrote back about how Hannibal was a kick-*** Carthigian general who kicked Roman butt all over the Italian peninsula. So they got to use the name.
 
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OK...so if Adolph Hitler is verboten how do these score:

3. Pol Pot (a few million disappeared on his watch)

Disappeared in the name of social reform.....:whazzat:

Only to re-appear as a 'mountain of skulls'.:eek::whip:

Don't think I would name my kid after Prof. Pol Pot either.



Of course if killing/enslavement in the name of war and reform bars your name from being used in the future, I suppose you can't in all truth leave out Mohammad and all similar spellings. Relating this back to the orignal artical, if I assumed socialistic fascism to be my 'religion' of choice, there should be no reason I cannot name my kids Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, or any other high ranking Nazi of past. Consequences of a 'free' society I suppose.:rolleyes:
 
Unfortunately such off topic questions offer the possibility of security agency fishing. I guess DIY audio is now perceived as a threat to the security of the state.
Personally I never say another person can or cannot do something. That is none of my business, unless they make it my business.
 
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Evidently they didn't impress on you that the Christian Churches (The book of Kells being a Christian text) abominate wizardry.

As an audio hobbyist, I've found myself often in front of a bench or desk trying to combine esoteric ingredients into something previously considered impossible. Hence the choice of "wizard" for my screen nickname. The fact that we use woofers, tweeters, capacitors, transformers and diodes and they used frog's toes, bat's wool, dog's tongue and eye of newt is relatively trivial.

In fact, bat's wool has undoubtedly found it's way into more than one Transmission Line enclosure in an effort to damp resonances, so the name is even more appropriate.
 
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We're not talking about a "weird" name. We're talking about the name of one of the most powerful and destructive evil men of history, likely the most. A man responsible for tens of millions of deaths, whose name is a rallying point for some of the worst dregs of society there are.

Unique is one thing. I know I couldn't treat a kid named Adolph Hitler the same as anyone else- I'd be constantly looking for the evidence of hate in him/his upbringing.

In America you are free to believe what you wish. The government can only punish acts, not thoughts. The fact that there is a subculture which admires Hitler is unfortunate, but they have the right to not only admire and praise him, but to publish books praising him, to try to convince the general public to appreciate him, and to raise their children to admire him as well.

It is the price we pay for being free to believe presently unpopular beliefs and theories, to publish books publicly advocating these theories and to raise our children in these beliefs.

To take someone's child away because the parents named their kid after an presently unpopular man and the kid will therefore be subject to problems and rejection by other people is to deny the parents the right to believe in unpopular beliefs and to join unpopular organizations. Pleasing the mob is not a legal requirements for parents, and it should not be on the job description for state and local executive departments.
 
In America you are free to believe what you wish. The government can only punish acts, not thoughts. The fact that there is a subculture which admires Hitler is unfortunate, but they have the right to not only admire and praise him, but to publish books praising him, to try to convince the general public to appreciate him, and to raise their children to admire him as well.

It is the price we pay for being free to believe presently unpopular beliefs and theories, to publish books publicly advocating these theories and to raise our children in these beliefs.

To take someone's child away because the parents named their kid after an presently unpopular man and the kid will therefore be subject to problems and rejection by other people is to deny the parents the right to believe in unpopular beliefs and to join unpopular organizations. Pleasing the mob is not a legal requirements for parents, and it should not be on the job description for state and local executive departments.

Yes. very well said. thank you.

As this man found out:
Reformed Skinhead Removes Tattoos - YouTube
he was a skinhead because of self hatred, and projected it outward. If was prevented from becoming a skinhead in the first place, he would not have discovered that about himself.
 
Exactly...the state is incapable of regulating thought, which is the ultimate goal of laws restricting forms of speech like the name you give a child. It is admittedly beyond stupid to name a child Adolf Hitler, just as it is beyond stupid to protest war by taunting the families of slain soldiers. The state can only properly restrict speech which is inherently and immediately dangerous to safety like yelling "fire" in a packed theater. The mentality of restricting speech to protect the feelings of others can all too quickly morph into restricting speech which the state finds controversial for other reasons.
 
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