Duffy,
i think i explained earlier how to build that circuit, i will search tomorrow and if i cannot find i will draw a simple schematic with values.
Hi Cristi,
you did indeed - I quoted it up the page. I think I understand it, but I just wondered if an 11K resistor would be OK and which way around the cap should go.
I finished a Faraday cage for one of my SMPS800R and experimented with an additional ferrite core.
Speaking of ferrite cores, might it be worthwhile to put the kind used on RCA interconnect cables on each set of +/- wires feeding an amp module?
Cristi, might you consider adding Farday cages or offering them as an option?
From what I've read there are few situations where they wouldn't be recommended.
Also, I think that most of us intend to use these inside a case with front or back panel power switch, so maybe it should be standard to have no power switch or IEC connector (this is for mains power, right?).
Thanks
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SoldierAnt: the aux. output can provide up to 500mA each rail, do not exceed this current otherwise the fuses which protect the aux section will burn. 500mA is more than enough for any preamplifier stage or aux. circuitry. the negative aux. output can be left floating if is not used. does not require any load and is useless to waste power by adding any resistor.
Noah: the type of ferrite cores which you mention are widely used as common mode choke on many interconnect cables. they can reduce the EMI by few dB if they are properly sized and installed.
To use a faraday cage, a shielded case for the power supply, the board must be redesigned, according to the case size and shape. one of the next power supplies at which i'm working at right now, will include such case. the radiated EMI decreases exponentially with the distance from the source, so, by placing an unshielded power supply further away few inches could lead to same result as by using a completely shielded one, next to the amplifier. also, the signal cables routing and GND connection can have a major effect.
I repeat, the SMPS800R, which is the only power supply which has the IEC connector on board, was designed to be used with the TA3020v3d amplifier, as a very compact unit, where all the space should be used at maximum.
Noah: the type of ferrite cores which you mention are widely used as common mode choke on many interconnect cables. they can reduce the EMI by few dB if they are properly sized and installed.
To use a faraday cage, a shielded case for the power supply, the board must be redesigned, according to the case size and shape. one of the next power supplies at which i'm working at right now, will include such case. the radiated EMI decreases exponentially with the distance from the source, so, by placing an unshielded power supply further away few inches could lead to same result as by using a completely shielded one, next to the amplifier. also, the signal cables routing and GND connection can have a major effect.
I repeat, the SMPS800R, which is the only power supply which has the IEC connector on board, was designed to be used with the TA3020v3d amplifier, as a very compact unit, where all the space should be used at maximum.
one of the next power supplies at which i'm working at right now, will include such case.
What will be its power output and when will it be available?
I repeat, the SMPS800R, which is the only power supply which has the IEC connector on board, was designed to be used with the TA3020v3d amplifier, as a very compact unit, where all the space should be used at maximum.
sorry, I missed it the first time
Shielded Power supply
This is very exciting. Any more data on size and output. I migth wait for this instead on pushing further down the path of building the cages for the SMPS800R.
Cheers
Thomas
To use a faraday cage, a shielded case for the power supply, the board must be redesigned, according to the case size and shape. one of the next power supplies at which i'm working at right now, will include such case. the radiated EMI decreases exponentially with the distance from the source, so, by placing an unshielded power supply further away few inches could lead to same result as by using a completely shielded one, next to the amplifier. also, the signal cables routing and GND connection can have a major effect.
This is very exciting. Any more data on size and output. I migth wait for this instead on pushing further down the path of building the cages for the SMPS800R.
Cheers
Thomas
Cristi, might you consider adding Farday cages or offering them as an option?
From what I've read there are few situations where they wouldn't be recommended.
For what it's worth, I've never experienced any interference problems with the 300 and 500 watt Connex supplies I've used. And that's with the SMPS sitting only a centimeter away from the amplifier unit.
A built-in Faraday cage would add bulk, and make the SMPS harder to install. If you think a cage would help in your situation, it might be easier to get some mesh and roll your own.
A built-in Faraday cage would add bulk, and make the SMPS harder to install. If you think a cage would help in your situation, it might be easier to get some mesh and roll your own.
i agree with you, that's why i haven't used them with the current power supplies yet. the source of noise is very often not easy to found and is easier to believe that the noise could come from the power supply, instead of inspecting further the circuit wiring and layout. a signal cable routed close to the power supply transformer, or a shielded signal cable with GND connected at both ends, a GND loop, or any other incorrect routing can be the cause of the noise.
I am simply looking at the supply rails of the amplifier board and see exactly the same ~100 Khz ripple I see at the output of the SMPS800R. There is noting else that generates a ~100 Khz ripple like this.
Adding the cage does reduce that ripple quite a bit.
Have you decided on the output power and dimensions of the caged suppply you are building?
Cheers
Thomas
Adding the cage does reduce that ripple quite a bit.
Have you decided on the output power and dimensions of the caged suppply you are building?
Cheers
Thomas
Cristi,
Depending on the size of the heat sink you offer with the A1000SMPS, it might not fit in my case.
What are its dimensions?
Also what are the dimensions of the heat slab, and does it protrude beyond the 120 mm dimension?
If I need to make a custom one, what should its fin area be?
Also please the dimensions of your speaker protector.
Thanks
Depending on the size of the heat sink you offer with the A1000SMPS, it might not fit in my case.
What are its dimensions?
Also what are the dimensions of the heat slab, and does it protrude beyond the 120 mm dimension?
If I need to make a custom one, what should its fin area be?
Also please the dimensions of your speaker protector.
Thanks
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I am simply looking at the supply rails of the amplifier board and see exactly the same ~100 Khz ripple I see at the output of the SMPS800R. There is noting else that generates a ~100 Khz ripple like this.
Adding the cage does reduce that ripple quite a bit.
But does the 100 khz ripple affect your amplifier sound (human hearing tops out at 20 khz or so)?
Hi Christi,
I sent an email with this question through your website, but I thought this might be a useful question for anyone else doing what I'm doing.
I bought an SDS-470 kit from Class D Audio. Note: there's very little info about this board on the website, but, with 4 ohm speakers, it does 600 WPC stereo, and 800 Watts bridged.
The kit came with a linear power supply, which works great. But I'm interested in trying a SMPS to hopefully lower the power consumption (i.e. make the overall amp more efficient). Also, I'd like to save on size and weight. I'm using this amp in stereo mode now; but if the SMPS gets the power consumption down enough (and sounds as good or better than the linear PS), then I intend to get another SDS-470 and run them both bridged (i.e. monoblocks).
Tom (of Class D Audio) said the PS voltage needs to be +/- 65 to 68 Volts.
He suggested the SMPS800R. I was wondering what your (or anyone else's) thoughts are on this unit versus the A1000SMPS. Why might I choose one over the other?
Soon as I figure out which one I should get, and confirm that the output voltage can be made as described above, I'm all set to order!
Thanks!
I sent an email with this question through your website, but I thought this might be a useful question for anyone else doing what I'm doing.
I bought an SDS-470 kit from Class D Audio. Note: there's very little info about this board on the website, but, with 4 ohm speakers, it does 600 WPC stereo, and 800 Watts bridged.
The kit came with a linear power supply, which works great. But I'm interested in trying a SMPS to hopefully lower the power consumption (i.e. make the overall amp more efficient). Also, I'd like to save on size and weight. I'm using this amp in stereo mode now; but if the SMPS gets the power consumption down enough (and sounds as good or better than the linear PS), then I intend to get another SDS-470 and run them both bridged (i.e. monoblocks).
Tom (of Class D Audio) said the PS voltage needs to be +/- 65 to 68 Volts.
He suggested the SMPS800R. I was wondering what your (or anyone else's) thoughts are on this unit versus the A1000SMPS. Why might I choose one over the other?
Soon as I figure out which one I should get, and confirm that the output voltage can be made as described above, I'm all set to order!
Thanks!
Yes, possible. if the main output is set to +-35V, the aux. will have about +-11.5 to +-12V, one third of the main output voltage. please leave a note regarding the output voltages when you order.
For SDS-470 amplifier, i also recommend the SMPS800R. the output voltage can be set from arround +-64V to about +-70V.
For SDS-470 amplifier, i also recommend the SMPS800R. the output voltage can be set from arround +-64V to about +-70V.
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