Is it me or are people thinking its neccessary to take an amp apart and take pictures of the board when posting a for sale thread or a listing on ebay? Why do people think it's "cool" to do this? I can see on a broken amp to take pic of the internals but when your selling a working amp there's no need to. I guess people think that if an amp looks ok than it must be in working order. It pisses me off sometimes when you see an amp for sale in beautiful condition, god forbid it be of a rare series, and in the next picture there it is... all violated.
With all of the thieves on eBay, it's reassuring to see that, at the very least, the board is intact and the amp is likely repairable. Many times, 'working' amps are actually blown. If you see the board, you at least know it can be repaired. The only time that I can see that it would be a problem is if it's a collectible amp and the tamper-evident sticker is intact.
This only applies to the ones where they remove the bottom cover. If they break the connection between the semiconductors and the heatsink, that's a completely different issue and that amp should only be purchased by someone that can properly remove the old heatsink compound, check the insulators and reapply new compound.
This only applies to the ones where they remove the bottom cover. If they break the connection between the semiconductors and the heatsink, that's a completely different issue and that amp should only be purchased by someone that can properly remove the old heatsink compound, check the insulators and reapply new compound.
Agreed, A picture says a 1000 words. and being able to take a look at the insides of an amp instills a degree of confidence in the purchase. If for example i spot NTE devices or signs of previous char/burn marks or anything that looks obviously suspect. then they may change my purchase decision. there are just too many scam(s)(ers) on eBay.
Here a picture of a 800a2 i got off Ebay that i did NOT see the inside of
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When I sold gear on flea-bay I also showed the pristine insides of my gear so people could see I was legit and so was my gear.
In fact I won't buy a piece of gear I can't see inside of first, and if the seller refuses to show me I let him keep it. I got a few looking like the 800 above this post from freaks of nature that think the internet hides them for being devious and dishonest.
So I say they all should be openly displayed, its usually just a few screws or a bottom plate slide off. Most owners jump inside of the gear they own anyway. I just prefer they do it on my behalf
Then there was the big time flea-bay seller that uses a name very similar to mine and he sold a local client a great SoundStream amp that had 6 3 inch holes cut out of the bottom plate by the guy he bought it from. Price was $1,100.00 for that kind of money I want all the pictures I can get..... And I got a couple hundred other stories about flea-bay deals so as long as Mrs Whitman who is running for Governator out here allows such things to go on, on her web-site I say Pictures should be free and plentiful as possible....
PS I have not sold anything on that site for years now, it's all just too surreal and way too much bogus sellers that I do not want to even remotely associated with in any way....I'll keep my gear rather that be piled in with some of those on that web-site...I sleep better too.....
In fact I won't buy a piece of gear I can't see inside of first, and if the seller refuses to show me I let him keep it. I got a few looking like the 800 above this post from freaks of nature that think the internet hides them for being devious and dishonest.
So I say they all should be openly displayed, its usually just a few screws or a bottom plate slide off. Most owners jump inside of the gear they own anyway. I just prefer they do it on my behalf
Then there was the big time flea-bay seller that uses a name very similar to mine and he sold a local client a great SoundStream amp that had 6 3 inch holes cut out of the bottom plate by the guy he bought it from. Price was $1,100.00 for that kind of money I want all the pictures I can get..... And I got a couple hundred other stories about flea-bay deals so as long as Mrs Whitman who is running for Governator out here allows such things to go on, on her web-site I say Pictures should be free and plentiful as possible....
PS I have not sold anything on that site for years now, it's all just too surreal and way too much bogus sellers that I do not want to even remotely associated with in any way....I'll keep my gear rather that be piled in with some of those on that web-site...I sleep better too.....
Here a picture of a 800a2 i got off Ebay that i did NOT see the inside of
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"This is a hot amp"...
I rather have put my foot where the sun don't shine. I got a raw end of the deal on that oneYeah that's toast
Hope you gave them a stinking feedback
.I would much rather see the inside of a car amp before buying.
I guess someone that doesn't want to see inside wouldn't have the ability to repair one anyway, meaning they would have no idea if it was faulty or not.
I guess someone that doesn't want to see inside wouldn't have the ability to repair one anyway, meaning they would have no idea if it was faulty or not.
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If only it was that simple, only sometimes are there visual clues as to if an amp is faulty or not, and even if there are visual clues most pics I've been seeing are not of high enough resolution to make a reliable decision.
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I don't post pics of a working amp, figure most people don't care. I do ask if a board is burnt in a broken one though, often. I've not had that much trouble only a couple that were trashed, but I stay away from the collector/huge amps mostly. I did manage to finally after two years get another ca260 for cheap, and it even works, I was amazed. Now watch I'll run them and not be impressed lol.
Some seem to not like pics of ampguts, but really 99% of the people have no idea what they are looking at anyway. Nobody seems to even notice the crappy thin stamped clamp bars lots of amps use. Even Audiobahn had nice aluminum ones. Do they really cost that much? I'd rather have the old MTX 1/8" steel than those cheap bendy chrome things...but if they don't care why should I.
Some seem to not like pics of ampguts, but really 99% of the people have no idea what they are looking at anyway. Nobody seems to even notice the crappy thin stamped clamp bars lots of amps use. Even Audiobahn had nice aluminum ones. Do they really cost that much? I'd rather have the old MTX 1/8" steel than those cheap bendy chrome things...but if they don't care why should I.
yes, but if the amplifier is described as "working 100%" and it has a burnt splodge on the board, it gives you a pretty clear indicator that its not!
I reckon I'll be right
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Check this one out its just a picture of a box Ebay Special whats inside the box?
New on box, Rockford Fosgate Punch 120.2 Car Amplifier - eBay (item 170481136502 end time May-05-10 19:56:05 PDT)
Ebay Special whats inside the box?New on box, Rockford Fosgate Punch 120.2 Car Amplifier - eBay (item 170481136502 end time May-05-10 19:56:05 PDT)
Whatever it is, its got 120% distortion!Check this one out its just a picture of a box
New on box, Rockford Fosgate Punch 120.2 Car Amplifier - eBay (item 170481136502 end time May-05-10 19:56:05 PDT)
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