Yes I can, I thought it was obvious based on the many posts where I described where cables can influence sound.
Not bald tyres, retreaded tyres. Wasn't referring to the cables used, only the way the connections were made.
The only way they can influence me with a sexy girl is when she is included in the deal.
Normally I notice the girl and miss what they try to advertise.
He wrote that he heard them but can't remember what he didn't like. Perhaps it was your cabling.
Sorry John, I find that hard to believe. I have yet to meet anyone who did and understood the issues who's outlook on these matter didn't profoundly change.
You posts show that you don't even understand the issues, let alone how these things play out in daily life.
I'll stop bugging you. Perhaps there will be an opportunity to discuss this at a later time.
jd
Yes I can, [hear soundstage width, depth, height, instrument placement etc], I thought it was obvious based on the many posts where I described where cables can influence sound.
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Thank you for confirming that in audio you routinely imagine things that aren't there.
For a fleeting moment there I thought that you were different than the rest of us
jd
Thank you for confirming that in audio you routinely imagine things that aren't there.
For a fleeting moment there I thought that you were different than the rest of us
jd
I still can't figure what that have to do with the comment of Charles Darwin that I responded to:
What you 'imagine' to be there are based on realistically reproduced soundwaves from the original event.
They honestly think the power of suggestion can have you hearing phantom sounds or nonexsistant sound quality. You can't reason with people like that. The only progress that was ever made in any forum based cable debate is when you personally decide to ignore it. I like jumping on the merry-go-round once and awhile but the ride has to end sometime. Your post is rational and intelligent. Other rational and intelligent people will appreciate it.
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No, it's called steering, you only process a small portion of the total song. Think of it like this, if you release one balloon into the sky it's pretty easy to identify the color and shape of the balloon. Now release 20, a little harder but you can still identify them if you're quick enough. Listening to music is like trying to identify the attributes of thousands of balloons being released every second. You can have a general understanding of the quantity, you might be able to quantify a small portion of the whole, but you'll never be able to hear every aspect of a song simultaneously. What you do each time you listen is focus on a specific range of frequencies which results in the possibility of a different impression each audition.
Add to that slight changes in your positioning which can result in a different filter on the gain and decay of any given frequency depending on the structure of the room. Then you add in product bias, which takes 2 identical viewings from the standpoint of the reproduction and influences the outcome. It's true that each time you listen you hear something slightly different from before, but this applies if any substantial changes were made to the system or not. You make it sound like your subconscious is creating aspects to the music that don't exits. It's more influencing the way you listen, as you "try to hear" differences you'll steer yourself into hearing completely different aspects of the same song you listened to a moment ago.
I would hate it if it was any other way tho, songs would be boring if every audition was identical. I like being able to re-listen to a song and pick out new elements or listen to it under a different light.
Hi,
It is not because studies show that the majority of people behave like this or that that an individual can't make up his own mind according to his own criteria.
Quite a percentage of the population are "different" from the common denominator.
I also wonder what you think audiophiles "imagine" that just isn't "there" ?
Cheers,
Thank you for confirming that in audio you routinely imagine things that aren't there.
For a fleeting moment there I thought that you were different than the rest of us
jd
It is not because studies show that the majority of people behave like this or that that an individual can't make up his own mind according to his own criteria.
Quite a percentage of the population are "different" from the common denominator.
I also wonder what you think audiophiles "imagine" that just isn't "there" ?
Cheers,
Must be wonderfully boring having your subconcious always forcing you to hear what you expect to hear. Never anything happening that you weren't expecting, no let-downs, no highs.
This is exactly what I'm accusing you of doing with your 'subconscious always has dominion over conscious perception' argument.
Yes,they are stupid,idiots,rich,think they know everything,they imagine things,they are deaf.........kill'em all
Do you believe what you are saying Markus?????...or is this what you were told to believe??? Seems you are trying to gain a special place among non-believers????????? Relax man,no one wants to harm you.......ok,ok,you are right
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Hi,
Since it is a subconscious process you won't really notice it in action....
But, I read you and when it comes to purchasing audio gear I can control my subconcious little devil when I want to.
When I take a look at some of the audio stuff I gathered over the years I think I succeeded. Occasionally...
Cheers,
Must be wonderfully boring having your subconcious always forcing you to hear what you expect to hear. Never anything happening that you weren't expecting, no let-downs, no highs.
Since it is a subconscious process you won't really notice it in action....
But, I read you and when it comes to purchasing audio gear I can control my subconcious little devil when I want to.
When I take a look at some of the audio stuff I gathered over the years I think I succeeded. Occasionally...
Cheers,
Oh, but I did hear them. I also remember you lashing out against the high-end industry on your website shortly afterward. That hardly seems a reaction from someone who got a lot of praise for his product. I hadn't intended to pursue this any more, but insinuating that I'm an ignoramus then calling me a liar doesn't sit well with me.
John
Please read my posts. All I said is that these influences don't always play a major role in decision-making by all people. Choosing a piece of gear based on the rational idea that if it measures well it should sound fine goes squarely against the hypothesis that the sub-conscience overcomes rational thought processes. Why is that different?
John
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