I need some help to determine what bass solution to match with a 340hz mid-horn. I want quick, tight bass with alot of slam! Modest sized sealed enclosure. Dont like BR.
That provides the question; several small or one large woofer?
Pros and cons - several woofers:
- Higher WAF
- Better transient response?
- Lower power handling?
Pros and cons - one large woofer:
- More slam?
- Mates better with the horn dispersion wise.
The drivers I have looked at is one Seas Excel W26 nextel version, one Seas A26RE4 or two Seas CA22RNX or three Seas ER18RNX.
Any thoughts? What would give the greates dynamics?
That provides the question; several small or one large woofer?
Pros and cons - several woofers:
- Higher WAF
- Better transient response?
- Lower power handling?
Pros and cons - one large woofer:
- More slam?
- Mates better with the horn dispersion wise.
The drivers I have looked at is one Seas Excel W26 nextel version, one Seas A26RE4 or two Seas CA22RNX or three Seas ER18RNX.
Any thoughts? What would give the greates dynamics?
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More magnets = more heat dispersion and less thermal compression.
You could probably claim a blanket rule for each alignment, one bass speaker v.s many but if it was my money I'd start modelling units that are available at a reasonable price, any boxes of 6's or 8's going locally for you v.s cost of a higher power long throw 15
You could probably claim a blanket rule for each alignment, one bass speaker v.s many but if it was my money I'd start modelling units that are available at a reasonable price, any boxes of 6's or 8's going locally for you v.s cost of a higher power long throw 15
Actually, yes.
With pretty much everything you want.
To the best of my knowledge there is no other speaker quite like this one:
Eminence - The Art and Science of Sound
Use 4 of them in a 4 square config. with a seperate enclosure volume for each of about 1.8 cubic feet. (..8 ohm version only.)
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If you want to mate better with a horn, go for an open baffle, as you will get a better controlled front lobe from an OB. The front dispersion will look more like the horn than a small box, which will be omnidirectional below 2-300 Hz.
With the right driver, it may also deliver a lot better dynamics than closed box. But be prepared for a couple of 15" if you want any deep bass......
With the right driver, it may also deliver a lot better dynamics than closed box. But be prepared for a couple of 15" if you want any deep bass......
Can you explain more this dynamics thing.
I think OB insist very difference speaker placement than closed box. At least 1,5 m from back wall...
Yes, OB's must be placed differently in the room.
I dont have enough theoretical background to go deep into this, but its my *experience* that dipoles may offer better dynamics. There is no box that can affect the dynamics, provided you don't overload the drivers.
I've been using the same drivers in both closed boxed and baffle-less dipoles, that is from 100 Hz and up. Subjectively, there is a huge difference - the dipoles are far better. That being said - dipole bass requires a lot more cone area than closed box.
I dont have enough theoretical background to go deep into this, but its my *experience* that dipoles may offer better dynamics. There is no box that can affect the dynamics, provided you don't overload the drivers.
I've been using the same drivers in both closed boxed and baffle-less dipoles, that is from 100 Hz and up. Subjectively, there is a huge difference - the dipoles are far better. That being said - dipole bass requires a lot more cone area than closed box.
What makes the Eminence good?
Surface area its surface area but there is XMax, linear distortion, etc.
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After going back to 12" woofers, I find the smaller woofer lacking in many ways. Even in the 100Hz to 400Hz range. One 12" can be very impressive in terms of bass performance.
You had me confused for a minute there Doug. :-/
"Going back" to 12" for me would mean smaller drivers. You mean that you were using 6" or 8" drivers, right?
My experience has been that 15s and 18s just have more grunt then the same surface area of multiple small drivers. Don't know why, but that is how it seems. I could just be prejudiced. Or do they just couple to the air better?
"Going back" to 12" for me would mean smaller drivers. You mean that you were using 6" or 8" drivers, right?
My experience has been that 15s and 18s just have more grunt then the same surface area of multiple small drivers. Don't know why, but that is how it seems. I could just be prejudiced. Or do they just couple to the air better?
I'm using eight 21" woofers ... to me it just sounds better than anything else I've tried. Its not the kind of impressive overwhelming sound that blows you away, but simply right.
A 5" woofer can sound really punchy and fat, provided you get the right compression and distortion... but you may also chose the opposite (low dist. and compression), and that wont sound punchy and fat!
A 5" woofer can sound really punchy and fat, provided you get the right compression and distortion... but you may also chose the opposite (low dist. and compression), and that wont sound punchy and fat!
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