Definately yes, it explained quite clear, that no two individuals, hears the same. A persons hearing changes over time, and we were not even at the same level in the first place.
That it's fairly easy to have your hearing tested, and that quite accurate, should make it easy to understand, and check for yourself.
Magura
I am checking this for years.Still your "reply" to Frank had nothing to do with his question.Not to mention that your post indicates clearly that most of it has to do with hearing ability of the individual,something that you struggle very hard to fight in all of your previous posts.
Not really, what I have been opposed to, is that it is highly unlikely, that we here in this thread, have that many people, whom has extraordinary hearing abilities.
Magura
Hi,
@Magura: An audiometre test alone just doesn't cut it IMO.
Cheers,
True, but it gives a quite good indication of where we stand, regarding hardware that is.
Magura
Not really, what I have been opposed to, is that it is highly unlikely, that we here in this thread, have that many people, whom has extraordinary hearing abilities.
Magura
Acceptance is your friend
Trouble is, that to hear a difference, which is fairly easy to prove only exists in the upper end of the range, one has to be able to hear that upper end of the range, where a subtle difference could have been.
Most over the age of 25 is just not able to hear that high end of the spectrum, and thus will not be able to hear the difference that may be there.
Magura
Acceptance is your friend
Acceptance of reality, yes, but that has nothing to do with accepting that you claim to be able to hear something that happens at 17KHz+ at the age of 45+ .
If you can hear 17KHz+ at the age of 45+, you truly stand out, and will be one of VERY few.
At the age of 40, most have even kissed 15-16KHz goodbye.
Magura
Hi,
When the cables are different (i.e. different values for R, C,or H) then it's quite normal to prefer one over another for whatever reason.
The issue here however is why anyone would hold a preference for one over the another when the cables are technically identical?
Cheers,
EDIT: Quote source is Panicas k, not Curly Woods.
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Trouble is, that to hear a difference, which is fairly easy to prove only exists in the upper end of the range, one has to be able to hear that upper end of the range, where a subtle difference could have been.
Most over the age of 25 is just not able to hear that high end of the spectrum, and thus will not be able to hear the difference that may be there.
Magura
I am sorry but there are difference throughout the auditory range.
Acceptance of reality, yes, but that has nothing to do with accepting that you claim to be able to hear something that happens at 17KHz+ at the age of 45+ .
If you can hear 17KHz+ at the age of 45+, you truly stand out, and will be one of VERY few.
At the age of 40, most have even kissed 15-16KHz goodbye.
Magura
You are listening for frequency response and missing what audio is all about, IMO. I listen to music not sine waves.
In no way you're right, all I stated, is that the difference is in the upper range of the spectrum, and that you can't hear in your age (neither can I for that sake, at the age of 34).
So, until you back up your claim of that cables influences the whole spectrum....
Magura
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Trouble is, that to hear a difference, which is fairly easy to prove only exists in the upper end of the range, one has to be able to hear that upper end of the range, where a subtle difference could have been.
Most over the age of 25 is just not able to hear that high end of the spectrum, and thus will not be able to hear the difference that may be there.
Magura
Comparing two cables by trying to hear their FR differences is one thing.To choose the one that helps you listen to the music is totally different.
Frank,this is your view of things too,that is the reason why I some times wonder how you can "congratulate" posters who's posts are based on a different view than yours
Note:I'm not asking for your support on any of my views
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Please try to back up that statement with math, and you will see that it's not possible.
Nothing of significance changes below the very upper part of the spectrum.
Magura
Hi,
When the cables are different (i.e. different values for R, C,or H) then it's quite normal to prefer one over another for whatever reason.
The issue here however is why anyone would hold a preference for one over the another when the cables are technically identical?
Cheers,
EDIT: Quote source is Panicas k, not Curly Woods.
With another member(in another country) we have exchanged views on two pairs of interconnects not only identical in terms of LCR,but we actually made them using the same wire out of the same reel.Only difference between the two pairs was the direction of the wires(in a configuration I don't want to reveal now).Both of them were unshielded so the difference had nothing to do with where the shield was connected.This fellow member has heard the same differences as I did.Here( in my country) ,I have also asked the opinion of some friends,but I have covered the cables using a mesh sleeving.I asked them to listen to the cables for as long as they wished,but trying them as I have told them.That is,to have the stickers that only had numbers 1 and 2 on the source end.All of them(5 persons) prefered cable #2.When they have seen what they were listening at,all 5 were shocked.
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In no way you're right, all I stated, is that the difference is in the upper range of the spectrum, and that you can't hear in your age (neither can I for that sake, at the age of 34).
So, until you back up your claim of that cables influences the whole spectrum....
Magura
And I care what you think or believe why?
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