Well, oddly, despite you having a different username and claiming to be in Great Britain, you seem to be posting from exactly the same IP addresses as Siliconray. Sock puppeting is not only against the rules here, it's thoroughly dishonest.
A quick examination turned up several other sockpuppets, that is, siliconray is creating multiple accounts and posing as other people to hype his offerings. This is strictly against forum rules as well as dishonest. Action will be taken. In the meantime, I would advise anyone considering doing business with siliconray to take into account these sorts of dishonest business practices.Stuipid work of Dealextreme's SEO team. I don't know why Siliconray want to be aquired by them. I didn't mean myself, I mean the company. I think they have at least 5 account on this forum. Dealextreme didn't care about the audio business when it began. Now they found there's a market so the SEO start their stupid work. It must be stopped.
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The whole office, more than 60 people, share one gateway, the IP are all the same. If it was me at least I know how to use a VPN to display a fake IP to you. I don't want to explain more about this, anyway I will ask them to stop it. It's not easy to setup good repution, all ruined by their stupid works.
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I am not worried for me, I am worried for losing a DIY resource.
Whilst you get these puppets banhammd down, I do hope SR's
main account is not thrown with the bathwater. There is no way
his operation could be one man, but it is on him to find out who
has stabbed him in the back and stop it.
Whilst you get these puppets banhammd down, I do hope SR's
main account is not thrown with the bathwater. There is no way
his operation could be one man, but it is on him to find out who
has stabbed him in the back and stop it.
I know how too. And so do 50% of us. The point made was that is SR is not the
kind of idiot to think a duplicate IP would go unnoticed. That much is believable.
Does not make him less responsible. There is a problem that exists in his office,
needs fixing. A strong "talking to" in the woodshed perhaps?
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Well let me get on my 'soapbox' and bloviate a little. This entire thing is most unfortunate, because SiliconRoy was close to being accepted as an untainted vendor. Now, no matter what the real truth happens to be, this entire fiasco will cost him most of his credibility. And without doubt this incident will spread to other forums. Members here tend to also be members of other forums, and news travels quickly.
But like 'kenpeter has stated above, there is more than just the issue of 'SockPuppets' and banning all who may or may not be associated. So far, to the best of my knowledge anyway, Roy has been forthcoming and helpful concerning questions on his offered kits. I have no complaints on that score.
And having the same 'IP' address "does not a guilty party make". It just means that the guilty parties are in the same physical vicinity as Roy. The sentence structure, inflection, and mistakes, tend to be a bit different from Roy's. Anyway, just enough to not put complete stock on 'IP' addresses.
That is why I have never used the 'IP' address for banning a member on my own forum, because it also punishes the possible innocent as well. And Roy is still innocent until proven guilty, so definitely nailing him for the antics of perhaps others would not be fair to Roy. And I am using the definition of 'fairness' as "Equality before the law", not some other pie-in-the-sky definition.
I'm still going to do business with Roy, and order a kit from him, most likely today. The kits are legitimate, and barring future events, are proven reliable. They may not be the very best money can buy, but anyone with common sense will take advertisement with a grain of salt, and continue on.
In truth, I suspected 'Jeffrey689' of perhaps being Chinese, because some of the sentence structure on one or two posts were just the kind that someone from the Orient would make. My first impulse was to find the 'IP' button and check for the location of the address. But of course I don't have that particular button available, so I just kept my eyes open and watched things unfold.
But here is a Fact: Roy is innocent until proven guilty. And if we punish him and he really is telling the truth, that is something we are the guilty party, not him.
I would suggest that a period of Probation be handed out, and leave it to him to work harder in order to rebuild it. That means he will have to work diligently, or he will be out of luck here, and at other sites. There is a lot at stake here, and I sincerely hope Roy(whatever your real name is) will understand just what a financial position he is in.
One thing Roy, and others over in China, really need to understand, along with the importance of honesty, is that unless this person has lived in the US, Canada, Ireland, or other British possessions, he will eventually be discovered and exposed. Chinese, like Japanese, is totally opposite of how English is structured, and one little slip is all that is needed to expose one's self.
I have a member on my forum, who has perfect English, has lived in the US for over twenty-five years, and his composition is almost beyond reproach. Almost, but not totally, because on one post he slipped up and left out an article in one of his sentences. And having studied Russian history and culture, I immediately keyed in on it, and sure enough, he is a Russian professor, who left Russia before the fall of peace loving Socialist Republic. See I dropped an article there.
My guess is that should Roy be earnest and really want to establish his reputation, he will take this to heart, and go out of his way to make up for any transgressions made by (you fill in the possibilities).
I'm sure Roy will read this, so I have a suggestion for you. Be forthcoming, and work as hard to preserve your reputation as humanly possible. Because once it is tainted, it is ten times harder to regain it than maintain it. I'm a Citadel graduate, and have taken its honor system with me during the rest of my life. If given the choice in telling someone the truth, or what I think others want to hear, I will always chose the former. Oh sure, they may be pissed off at me up front, but they certainly will get over it, because the truth is always the truth. But if they discover I have lied, they will Really be pissed off, and they won't forget the deception. Its just not worth it, Period!
Anyway, for what its worth, I vote we live by the code of "doveryai, no proveryai"(trust but verify), and let Roy have a chance to pass or fail on his own virtue, or lack thereof.
I apologize for the long and winded speach.
Now, about that price change........................................................
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When several IP addresses are in common and each of the "members" in question post primarily in siliconray threads praising siliconray, and he's been caught using multiple identities before, well, it's a stretch to call that a coincidence.
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