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Old 13th September 2019, 05:51 PM   #1
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Now it appears, as I read in the local newspapers, that "vapers" (Or electronic cigarettes) are worse than traditional (tobacco) cigars. Fortunately I never smoked no kind of tobacco.

What new idea have the industries (post cell phones), to destroy our life(s)?
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Old 13th September 2019, 06:15 PM   #2
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I've not read that.
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Old 13th September 2019, 06:30 PM   #3
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The recent report is called "The Cardiovascular Effects Of Electronic Cigarettes."

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E-cigarettes are not completely risk free, but there is international consensus, including from CRUK, ASH, RCP and the US National Academy of Science that vaping is far less harmful than smoking.
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Old 13th September 2019, 06:44 PM   #4
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There were those in the USA who died from vaping.
Specifically from non-infectious lipoid pneumonia induced by inhaling oil.

From what I've heard 6 died recently with a further 450 in more or less intensive care.
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Old 13th September 2019, 06:49 PM   #5
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Charles, word more, word less , this is what I read. Deaths an serious cancer, because of tin, plumb, and many other poison materials in the liquid /smoke.

I read an article that makes refernce to this one in the BBS (in Spanish): Cigarrillo electronico: la "inexplicable enfermedad" que causo la primera muerte asociada al uso de vaporizadores - BBC News Mundo
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Old 13th September 2019, 07:07 PM   #6
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The research has been followed by reports of six deaths in the US, which have been linked to vaping. This is in accord with what Charles Darwin said.

Responding to the reports, the UK Vaping Industry Association added: “It appears that the incidents in the USA are linked to people using illegal liquids, most likely black-market marijuana products (THC oils). Products such as these are illegal in the UK."
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Old 13th September 2019, 09:10 PM   #7
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This just in: Being stupid may be lethal.
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Old 13th September 2019, 09:39 PM   #8
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I knew, when those idiotic vaping things started coming up for sale, they'd be trouble.
I had a feeling, and I was obviously right.
18 year old kids in induced comas, others dying.... puffing that slime from their mouths.
Thanks, I'll stick to my Pall Mall Blue 100's, because at 66, I ain't in no damn coma yet.
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Old 13th September 2019, 09:44 PM   #9
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Considering the illness/injury rate among likely still smaller cohort using these devices than old school tobacco & other smokable materials, and the relatively short time they’ve been in use, I’d be more than moderately alarmed.
Has there been exhaustive research/analyses of the chemicals / propellants found in these high tech coffin nails?
FWIW - and all politics aside - the proposal for FDA to ban all flavoured vape products that are clearly targeted to start the “safer” addiction as early as pre-teens might well be one of the smartest policies to come out of Washington in the past several years.

Then of course there’s the reports of spontaneous combustion while in pockets.

Safe - yeah, like Hydrocodone - ask the Sackler family how that criminal misrepresentation worked out in the long run.
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Old 13th September 2019, 09:49 PM   #10
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Warning: Don't smoke near children - they may steal your cigarettes!
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