I was looking at vintage Yamaha receivers, the old CR-640 caught my eye...the same vintage Kenwood stuff also looks very pleasing to the eye...what happened, how did we fall so low?
Quiz, match-up the vintage & now!
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Quiz, match-up the vintage & now!
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Electronic circuits have become very cheap due to integration, robot assembly and standardization. Mechanical structures like chassis/cabinets made in more noble materials have not hanged much in price. Real craftsmanship has probably increased in price.
Cheap chassis made from metal-sheet and molded plastic can be made at a low cost but are rarely aesthetic. Would you pay the double or even more for the same electronic performance but in a more pretty "wrapping"?
Aesthetics are very subjective. Is a Lyngdorf Millenium Mk IV really as aesthetic as it is expensive? Is it typically bought for the looks or the sound?
For most of us, aesthetics imply significantly higher prices without us being convinced that we really would get something more. For some, the price is unimportant but are they then sure what they want and will their friends agree to the choice?
The hunt for aesthetics makes women do repeated plastic operations in the hope that they will be seen as more attractive. Sometimes it clearly doesn't work and it is against a moving target. My neighbor claims motorcycles (among other Ducati) to be solely a question of aesthetics but he keeps finding new outlines he appreciates even better and cannot decide what to buy.
I find aesthetics in certain music and nature, and sometimes I see beauty in certain man-made products. I try to avoid being victim of the massive commercial bombardment trying to align my preferences with that of commercial interests. At least that is what age allows.
Cheap chassis made from metal-sheet and molded plastic can be made at a low cost but are rarely aesthetic. Would you pay the double or even more for the same electronic performance but in a more pretty "wrapping"?
Aesthetics are very subjective. Is a Lyngdorf Millenium Mk IV really as aesthetic as it is expensive? Is it typically bought for the looks or the sound?
For most of us, aesthetics imply significantly higher prices without us being convinced that we really would get something more. For some, the price is unimportant but are they then sure what they want and will their friends agree to the choice?
The hunt for aesthetics makes women do repeated plastic operations in the hope that they will be seen as more attractive. Sometimes it clearly doesn't work and it is against a moving target. My neighbor claims motorcycles (among other Ducati) to be solely a question of aesthetics but he keeps finding new outlines he appreciates even better and cannot decide what to buy.
I find aesthetics in certain music and nature, and sometimes I see beauty in certain man-made products. I try to avoid being victim of the massive commercial bombardment trying to align my preferences with that of commercial interests. At least that is what age allows.
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What do you mean fall so low? It's been up and down forever. Don't you remember or haven't you been around little before that picture of Billy Joel was taken?I was looking at vintage Yamaha receivers, the old CR-640 caught my eye...the same vintage Kenwood stuff also looks very pleasing to the eye...what happened, how did we fall so low?
I think Quad did a fairly nice job of homage to Peter’s original aesthetic
QII Series | QUAD | the closest approach to the original sound
Can you imagine if Jon Ives got his hands on that product line?
Thermal dissipation and ease of repair? Get outta here - they’ll trade it in for the next new skinny shiny thing before the warranty even runs out, right Steve?
QII Series | QUAD | the closest approach to the original sound
Can you imagine if Jon Ives got his hands on that product line?
Thermal dissipation and ease of repair? Get outta here - they’ll trade it in for the next new skinny shiny thing before the warranty even runs out, right Steve?
It depends on the target audience. There have always been nice and bling options around. That dash cluster in the original post is ridiculous, that has to be a custom job right? There is no way I would buy a car with an instrument cluster that looked like that!!
I really liked the Kenwood gear from the 70's Pioneer I also liked. I was never a fan of the look of the gold marantz stuff. 80's saw black, and I actually prefer black components.
The Yamaha Dave posted is very clean and nice. No bling!
Tony.
I really liked the Kenwood gear from the 70's Pioneer I also liked. I was never a fan of the look of the gold marantz stuff. 80's saw black, and I actually prefer black components.
The Yamaha Dave posted is very clean and nice. No bling!
Tony.
I dunno, who's got the best knobs? Maybe the control panel of my 1963 RCA Victor console stereo...Now, with backlit LED knob illumination.
A bit "stylish" don't ya think?
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The beauty of DIY is being able to give new life to previously forgotten electronics. While I do not condone cannibalism of repairable vintage audio gear, there are plenty of situations one can come across one beyond repair and stuff something cool inside. I see all kinds of amazing pieces of equipment, art, etc that would look much cooler than a black box on the counter.
Until companies start designing products I can afford and like the look of, I will forever be a slave to my many overly ambitious, and extremely unfinished projects. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Wood and Aluminum look amazing together and feel it's time for it to come back into fashion in hifi. Love them silver faces with brunette (or blonde) hair lol
Until companies start designing products I can afford and like the look of, I will forever be a slave to my many overly ambitious, and extremely unfinished projects. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Wood and Aluminum look amazing together and feel it's time for it to come back into fashion in hifi. Love them silver faces with brunette (or blonde) hair lol
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It depends on the target audience. There have always been nice and bling options around. That dash cluster in the original post is ridiculous, that has to be a custom job right? There is no way I would buy a car with an instrument cluster that looked like that!!
I really liked the Kenwood gear from the 70's Pioneer I also liked. I was never a fan of the look of the gold marantz stuff. 80's saw black, and I actually prefer black components.
The Yamaha Dave posted is very clean and nice. No bling!
Tony.
That dashboard/instrument cluster, is from the current Pagani supercar, a multi-million dollar car...lots of them driving the streets of Monaco. The other picture is of a dashboard of the Chevrolet Corvette, 1984 to 1989?...highlighting the "futuristic" digital read-outs & graphs.
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Pagani supercar
Don’t they only make 5 a year. Even if all of them were in Monaco would that be lots?
Not a car i really like the looks of.
dave
The beauty of DIY is being able to give new life to previously forgotten electronics. While I do not condone cannibalism of repairable vintage audio gear, there are plenty of situations one can come across one beyond repair and stuff something cool inside. I see all kinds of amazing pieces of equipment, art, etc that would look much cooler than a black box on the counter.
Until companies start designing products I can afford and like the look of, I will forever be a slave to my many overly ambitious, and extremely unfinished projects. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Wood and Aluminum look amazing together and feel it's time for it to come back into fashion in hifi. Love them silver faces with brunette (or blonde) hair lol
Sort of like my recent amplifier project?
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That dashboard/instrument cluster, is from the current Pagani supercar, a multi-million dollar car...lots of them driving the streets of Monaco. The other picture is of a dashboard of the Chevrolet Corvette, 1984 to 1989?...highlighting the "futuristic" digital read-outs & graphs.
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OK!! I'm surprised it passes design laws it looks shocking to me. Luckily I could never afford one!
Tony.
Sort of like my recent amplifier project?
Nice job!
More photos please.
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