The answer is you don't....that driver is rated 1000W.
The Gallo amp will be fine, try it.
Dan.
Yes, sort of makes sense.
In practice, that signal shows up in an instantaneous peak, as I tried to emphasize earlier. Amp power (and the related issues of source impedance (AKA damping factor) and headroom) determine how big an instantaneous peak the amp can handle (and what you are prepared to accept).
So maybe in buying an amp, you want to scrutinize power and headroom.
B.
In practice, that signal shows up in an instantaneous peak, as I tried to emphasize earlier. Amp power (and the related issues of source impedance (AKA damping factor) and headroom) determine how big an instantaneous peak the amp can handle (and what you are prepared to accept).
So maybe in buying an amp, you want to scrutinize power and headroom.
B.
Bass is not fast. The low pass filter takes out the "speed". So try again. Maybe I should call it a slow pass filter, thats what it is.
To answer the OPs question.
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At 40hz you need about 20db more spl than in the midrange to sound flat, with equal sensitvity drivers (but depending on there bandwidths ) thats about 100 times the power. So it depends on efficiencies and how loud you listen to music.
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At 40hz you need about 20db more spl than in the midrange to sound flat, with equal sensitvity drivers (but depending on there bandwidths ) thats about 100 times the power. So it depends on efficiencies and how loud you listen to music.
They are different technologies. (Behringer is a class D development and was "improved" in Inuke by a "Zero" class) Behringer amplifiers use switched sources like those in desktop computers, the cost is greatly reduced by not using power supplies (PSU) classic, with large, heavy and expensive transformers, also large and expensive electrolytic capacitors, many transistors usually located in huge heat sinks, etc.
Hence the tremendous difference in weight between a conventional class AB amplifier and its current rivals to give you an idea of why the difference in cost / power ratio.
iNUKE NU-6000DSP power load test - Music Tribe
The INUKE 6000 can't be meaningfully measured like amps of yesteryear but it plays music fine.
Measurements say it plays music peaks sort of like an old amp of 1000-2000 watts per channel, provided the notes aren't really too sustained.
But at those levels, it would draw 18 Amps from your wall socket and that may be a limit in blown fuses and sound quality.
B.
Measurements say it plays music peaks sort of like an old amp of 1000-2000 watts per channel, provided the notes aren't really too sustained.
But at those levels, it would draw 18 Amps from your wall socket and that may be a limit in blown fuses and sound quality.
B.
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The "I couldn't resist" thing was a clue for sarcasm. It doesn't come across in short posts.
But some replies on my post show how easy it is to fool ignorant people with some fancy words.
I think I read something similar in the reply of Mr. Uli Behringer in the link that I attached (and I repeat) with respect to the measurements .....
In an organ work there are many sustained low notes, but it would still have a lot of "head space"
I hope the OP has already clarified their doubts.
iNUKE NU-6000DSP power load test - Music Tribe
"Your question about power amplifier ratings is an interesting one for several reasons. Although over the years there have been attempts at standardizing the way power amplifiers are measured and rated, it appears to me that even in the face of legislation, there continues to be no consensus in the pro audio industry.
Forgive me for stating what you already know , but for some readers a bit of history may be in order.
There was a time when the accepted method for measuring amplifier power was to inject a sinusoidal signal (usually 1 kHz) and measure the output just as the sine wave began to distort. This type of measurement assumed that the amplifier would be operated in that manner, although we were all aware that actual program material was very different to a sine wave. Regardless, this RMS measurement became a standard.
While there have been several variations on this theme, the net effect of standard practice has always been that power measurements have been based on a continuous sinusoidal signal applied at the input. As imperfect as this system may have been, it did allow consumers to compare one amplifier to another and conclude which one had a higher rated power. Sounds good? Not so fast.
The problem with this method is, as most manufacturers and users discovered over time, that it measures a parameter that may not necessarily be the best predictor of actual amplifier performance. Real program material, whether it be music or speech, is very different from a sine wave and it is a leap of faith to correlate one to the other. Imagine a car that is capable of pulling a heavy load up a mountain compared to one that accelerates aggressively; which one is more powerful? It depends on what your objective is.
I believe that this disparity between what was measured and what was really needed was driven by the measurement technology of the day. In fact, the use of a steady-state sine wave is a throw-back to a time before digital oscilloscopes and programmable signal generators, when pretty much any technician could replicate the measurements on their test bench. Regardless of whether it was the “right” measurement, it was at least a measurement that almost anyone could make.
In the last 10-15 years we have seen the emergence of a whole new breed of amplifiers with power ratings in the thousands of watts, not just hundreds. Respected brands such as Lab Gruppen and Powersoft have led the way into this new realm not by measuring amplifiers the “old” way using a steady-state sine wave but by other means that more closely mimic the dynamics of real program material. The objective is to better quantify the performance of their products in the actual environment where they will be used.
Inherent in this approach is a lack of agreed measurement standards and definitions. I have yet to see published documentation on the precise measurement methods and techniques used by these and other manufacturers claiming specifications based on "maximum output power".
I can only assume that capable engineers are using good judgment in creating test routines that inject impulse signals of sufficient amplitude and duration along with periods of reduced energy to arrive at their power ratings. In any event, most manufacturers must consider this proprietary IP as they are not publishing such data currently.
This brings us to the iNUKE series of power amplifiers that BEHRINGER introduced just over a year ago. iNUKE amplifiers were the culmination of extensive research and development in our engineering team around power efficiency. As I have said in other posts we proudly operate one of the most capable power engineering teams in the industry with extensive experience in both SMPS and Class-D amplification.
Our new patent-pending "Class Zero" technology that combines power supply and amplifier into a single stage was in fact a direct outcome of the research the preceded the iNUKE range. With this new "Class Zero" technology, we have been able to design amplifiers with up to 94% efficiency (AC to AC), which is a remarkable increase of 10-15% compared to the most efficient SMPS and Class-D designs. The final component count and cost will have to be seen until the mature design stage, but energy efficiency in light of carbon footprint reduction and green energy is definitely worth pursuing.
I am proud to say that iNUKE amplifiers have become a tremendous commercial success and are now outselling even our EP4000; one of the most successful power amplifiers of all time. They have also earned the praise of users and the press, who have conducted their own independent testing.
. While we always support standards and also ensure that all of our products are UL listed and FCC compliant, even though many of our competitors skirt the law (try searching Federal Communications Commission | The United States of America to see who has been fined for non-compliance), it appears that power amplifier measurement standards have not kept up with measurement technology.
If such a standard does come to pass, then rest assured that we will follow it right along with venerable competitors such as Lab Gruppen, Powersoft, Crown and QSC among others."
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Inuke amps has somewhat good price/performance ratio. Just do not except them to give the same amount of real world "punch" and raw power compared to good quality amps with less output power "on paper". Friend of mine had inuke 12000 and Crest CA18, driving 4 x 18" subs. Difference was like a night and day, CA18 wins hands down even tho it has less output power claimed.
Cheap class-d + under rated smps vs. Heavy duty class-h + enormous toroidal transformer.
Cheap class-d + under rated smps vs. Heavy duty class-h + enormous toroidal transformer.
I run subs (tuned +/-25Hz) with tops and a passive crossover with an 32 watt tube amp, and never go more than half open on the preamp. My subs are 89dB efficient and my room is something like 4x8x2.5m. But it's a big vented case with an 10" in it. Those small sealed subs that are popular now (mainly for the looks i think) don't go low or loud when you don't put a lot of power in it, that is why most think you need a lot of watts to get real bass.
But with my 32w system half open, my house is already shaking and the neighbours not so happy... So it all depends on the setup and the parts. Some subs need kilowatts, some only a few watt.
But with my 32w system half open, my house is already shaking and the neighbours not so happy... So it all depends on the setup and the parts. Some subs need kilowatts, some only a few watt.
I assume it is for PA use, so, let's forget the room problems to try to help in the election.
It is a speaker with double coil, (2 x 4 ohms) according to the amplifier that is used with it will depend on the connection in series or in parallel.
Assuming you use the Behringer 6000 DSP, then I would connect DVC in series (4 ohms).
With which the amplifier will be delivering 3000 watts "musical" per channel, according to the manufacturer. Equivalent to 1500 watts Rms making a very approximate deduction for everything you've read before.
The 88.6 dB sensitivity of the speaker makes a BR or horn box essential for the best performance. Never sealed.
Dayton Audio UM18-22 18" Ultimax DVC Subwoofer 2 ohms Per Coil
Behringer iNuke NU6000 DSP
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/specs/295-518--dayton-audio-um18-22-spec-sheet.pdf
Just my two cents, wait for other opinions of specialized people that are here and surely they will know how to advise you better ... or maybe they agree with me !
If it's for an HT, that changes things completely.
You can go by sealed (you will have more "fast" bass) and there are no complex problems of adapting them with the room.
And the Beringher with Dsp will be an excellent choice for use at home.
Forget criticism, you will never demand it to cause it to fail.
I think that if I were you, I would not let escape this, if the shipping costs are high, you can build it yourself and you will save a lot of money.
Good luck and tell us how this story continues!
Denovo Audio Knock-Down MDF 4.0 cu. ft. Subwoofer Cabinet for Dayton Audio 18" Ultimax
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/installation-guides/kno
You can go by sealed (you will have more "fast" bass) and there are no complex problems of adapting them with the room.
And the Beringher with Dsp will be an excellent choice for use at home.
Forget criticism, you will never demand it to cause it to fail.
I think that if I were you, I would not let escape this, if the shipping costs are high, you can build it yourself and you will save a lot of money.
Good luck and tell us how this story continues!
Denovo Audio Knock-Down MDF 4.0 cu. ft. Subwoofer Cabinet for Dayton Audio 18" Ultimax
https://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/installation-guides/kno
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I sorry, this is link correct.
https://www.parts-express.com/pedoc...oofer-cabinet-assembly-installation-guide.pdf
https://www.parts-express.com/pedoc...oofer-cabinet-assembly-installation-guide.pdf
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