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Old 10th July 2018, 11:40 PM   #11
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I don't understand why people can't accept that some of these folks are just shysters and frauds. I have tolerance for self delusion but there are limits.
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Old 10th July 2018, 11:46 PM   #12
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Hmmm. Sounds like Bob Levi got serious push back from his vendors.
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Old 11th July 2018, 12:12 AM   #13
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This particular society is known for being industry friendly with all that could connote, so I am not surprised unfortunately. Sort of inevitable based on the personalities involved.

They prey on the ignorance of people who don't understand how the underlying technology functions. Back when I had a business in the late years of the last century a significant amount of work I did involved undoing tweaks that actually interfered with the electrical operation of the tweaked device - in particular CD players. Go figure.
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Old 11th July 2018, 12:15 AM   #14
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This particular society is known for being industry friendly with all that could connote,
so I am not surprised unfortunately. Sort of inevitable based on the personalities involved.
Dealers played that loudness trick for many years as well.
 
Old 11th July 2018, 12:16 AM   #15
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I would imagine he felt an overwhelming urge to prove power cords cannot possibly sound different
I don’t know about sound differences, but i have certainly seen measurements showing differences (don’t ask where, i can't recall).

2dB difference with power cables would require some sort of intervention elsewhere to achieve i would think?

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Old 11th July 2018, 12:28 AM   #16
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I wonder how long this thread goes before being shut down for the same reasons all other cable threads get shut down. It's just a matter of time.
Why? Nothing said here attacks a person but the ideas they express. OTO
H cable threads are doomed, period.
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I wonder how long this thread goes before being shut down for the same reasons all other cable threads get shut down. It's just a matter of time.
This thread is different, in that it starts from a premise of reason unlike most others which are based on magic. The ones out of line here will the those who support the latter.
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And it's not a cable thread either, it really is more about business ethics.
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Old 11th July 2018, 12:35 AM   #19
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Scott, I removed my post, apparently too quickly, and I will go back to monitoring. This is the most interesting thread ever about cables. I really should have noted the difference.
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And it's not a cable thread either, it really is more about business ethics.
The best scenario is to have the manufacturer submit to the same test with a third party referee checking all the variables. Typically this is shunned.
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