You know it's thousands for a fact, you compiled statistics? Well I say thousands have not detected differences and it is also not true. Norman coordinate.
Of course the amplifier output current was routed through the relais in this case.
I thought the introduction using "magnetic issues of relais" would have made clear that it was now about a general case not about the specific usage of reed relais; I'll try to be more precise next time....
Maybe opioids would be better for them/you?
-RNM
Nice debating position.
Just that i do have such facts, numbers from manufacturing sales for years and distributor sales and direct customer sale base.
No contest. you lost this argument many years ago. perceptions are real when descriptions are consistent and same over time and peoples.
not saying a dose of aspirin works for everyone though. There are always exception to be found.
THx-RNMarsh
PS -- Thx Mark for taking the M2 for awhile. enjoy.
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It is of course not possible for ethical reasons in a lot of trials, but there are others where it would be much better not only to have a treatment group and a placebo control group but a third arm with no treatment at all.
The more modern understanding btw is, that we need a combination of RCTs and long term observational studies to know better what really works under usual conditions.
Placebos do work when taking them evokes a physiological reaction; usually it is not about just an imagination effect.
It is of course not possible for ethical reasons in a lot of trials, but there are others where it would be much better not only to have a treatment group and a placebo control group but a third arm with no treatment at all.
The more modern understanding btw is, that we need a combination of RCTs and long term observational studies to know better what really works under usual conditions.
Placebos do work when taking them evokes a physiological reaction; usually it is not about just an imagination effect.
I used ferrite core non-linear coil intentionally, for its resemblance to speaker non- linearity on electrical side. I had hoped this was absolutely clear. Still being surprised, here. At least Scott has got it, thank you, SW.
Thank you for coming out in support for blind testing under strict conditions as is habitual in the medical industry.
Such an inappropriate response, in fact I have never even filled a prescription when I was given one, even did a root canal without any pain mediation because normal stuff does not work on me.
jn does too, I hope he is OK life has not dealt him the best hand.
You seem to forget that a lot of drugs came from 'cures' that worked for many, many people over many. many years & this was enough evidence to search for the active ingredient i.e acetylsalicylic acid from willow bark
The point being that the 'wisdom of crowds' showed allowed the discovery of aspirin, the active ingredient in willow bark.
Much like many other drugs also many were discovered as a result of mistakes or developed for one use but found to be more effective in a totally unrelated area
It’s night and day obvious I am
Well, that says it all, really...
First, a protocol would have to be agreed. And we know were that goes - the usual suspects would dispute the results whatever protocol was pre-agreed....
As I intimated, if any coil is going into saturation, I would expect that to be an overdrive situation.
The plot on the RHS in your original post looks like a classic speaker impedance plot with typical LF port resonance and then increasing impedance at HF. The speaker coil/motor non-linearity thing does not spring out from what you showed.
Really, the sales figures of even one conventional film capacitor manufacturer would bury the entire boutique capacitor "industry" as a marginal footnote.
When I questioned you and JC years ago you ignored me. I pointed out the DA think is interesting but for the exception of a few notable pathologically bad capacitor technologies, the problem was almost unmeasurable frequency response issues and virtually unmeasurable distortion so why not just inform folks of ordinary cost effective solutions, but there was something to sell with huge margins.
Hahaha. So literal interpretation .... but thats a true EE .... zoom...
THx- RNMarsh
geez so much mis-information, assumptons etal. do you just make this stuff up for debating points?
I did. i said polyprop was better than electrolytics and most practical film type.
Fine.
-RNM
Not all tests are equal and appropriate to the problem and esp thd tests. DA test are better and have high correlation to hearing.
-RNM
LOUD SHOUTING FUD
Anectodal story, you need to come up with details (relay manufacturer, model) and comparative and reproducible measurement setrup and resuts to be taken seriously. It is impossible to explain that level of distortion (-90dB) by "a short piece of wire inside wasn't made from a diamagnetic material anymore", even for a relay routing a power amplifier output current. If the numbers are real, I'd rather believe the new manufacturer ****** with the contacts (material, spring tension, etc...).
Not to mention the discussion was about reed relays magnetic distortions, nowhere close to be used at high currents.
Seems that some do not understand the difference between linear and nonlinear and also do not understand that amplitude or impedance response is measured as a small signal plot. Better not waste the time anymore. Pity it is not possible to have a separate talk with some of the guys here. Anyway, I am happy to had an opportunity to meet the people like Scott Wurcer here. Who would have guessed it in the eighties, when I knew the name from literature only. Thanks for this opportunity.
Richard's point was that, even if we don't know why something works, if a critical mass of people all experience the same, then we can be pretty sure it is worth investigating to get at the why.
George just ignored this point & objected to something else about a return to mediavalism or some-such.
My point is also that this type of advancement in science isn't confined to the past - it happens today, too - observation happens first & then attempts to explain
Maybe you didn't follow any of this?
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