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Old 29th December 2017, 02:40 AM   #1
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It seems only music and software are things that are given away.

I spent two years writing a pcbcad program in 1990 only to find some companies were giving it away !

These days music is free on youtube etc.

Why is it we accept these give aways but would never give anything else away for free ?

Should free software and music be banned so people can make a living from them ?
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Old 29th December 2017, 03:19 AM   #2
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There is a third option.

Sell software and copyright it but promise to release it into the public domain once it becomes obsolete and no longer supported.

This way people will pay for the best features in the newest version and you will gain popularity by giving away stuff for free once it becomes obsolete. The people who cannot afford the newest version can then download your old version and still find it useful.

Version 1 would be paid for but once its superseeded by version 2 you release version 1 into the PD without source code.

Then if you ever decided to abandon the project you release the entire source code for all versions under a FOSS licence and support the project in your spare time until retirement.

This method supports all stages of your life as a programmer, financially and as a hobby as you age.

And music on youtube isn't given away for free per-say. You pay for it through viewing ads, unless of course you have an adblock plugin.
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Old 29th December 2017, 03:28 AM   #3
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It seems only music and software are things that are given away.

I spent two years writing a pcbcad program in 1990 only to find some companies were giving it away !

These days music is free on youtube etc.

Why is it we accept these give aways but would never give anything else away for free ?

Should free software and music be banned so people can make a living from them ?
Hat off to you! Writing a pcbcad in 1990 is an amazing feat
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Just seemed a bit unfair to me that people give software away.
LTSPICE is given away so prevents me from writing my own version.
I probably couldn't do it as well as they can anyway.

If Ford suddenly started giving cars away there would be uproar from other manufacturers.
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I spent two years writing a pcbcad program in 1990
Where can I download?
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Hat off to you! Writing a pcbcad in 1990 is an amazing feat
330,000 lines of 8086 assembly language.
Then converted to Delphi.
Then converted to C#.
Then converted to C++ for better graphics speed.
It is now 500,000 lines of code.
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Just seemed a bit unfair to me that people give software away.
LTSPICE is given away so prevents me from writing my own version.
I probably couldn't do it as well as they can anyway.

If Ford suddenly started giving cars away there would be uproar from other manufacturers.
That is kind of the goal of the human species to make everything free so then poverty is eliminated. In the future it will be possible to get a taxi ride for free from an autonomous car provided that you are willing to make a few stops in between, you pay for it because you are carpooling with others and because you are willing to add a few minutes to your trip. The one stuck with the bill is the person who is ordering the cab in the first place.

I for one do not want to have to pay for a SSH/FTP/EMAIL client but a piece of cad software is a different story.

When you think about it if you don't need money to stay alive and live comfortably then there is no reason why you would want to charge money for software and/or a car.

The end goal of consumerism and innovation is to do away with consumerism and keep innovation. So if you want to do something then there is only one reason why you would want to continue doing something in a money-less economy is because you want others to enjoy what you've done.

You should enjoy the fact that you can download LTSPICE for free. If you want to profit from writing your own cad software then do so, nobody is stopping you. If its better than LTSPICE then it will sell, if its not then it is a pointless exercise and people will continue to use LTSPICE.

If you are obsessing over the fact that you cannot competitivley run LTSPICE off the internet and force people to buy your own software then I have some bad news for you, that is not how the world works anymore and thank goodness for that. Its immoral to do so and if it was set up the way that you want it to be then we wouldn't have free software anywhere, corporations would use their money and power to kill everything that is FOSS.
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Where can I download?
I had to reload Windows on my pc many years ago.
In the process of doing it for some strange reason Windows install formatted both my hard drives and I lost the original assembly source code.
I had a customer send me a copy of distributable CDROM.
I still have that on my pc but it will no longer run under Windows as it was a 16 bit program.
In those days pre windows I had to write my own dialogue box windows.
The video drivers were all hand written talking directly to screen video card.
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Too bad.
But impressive nonetheless.
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Too bad.
But impressive nonetheless.
I bought two good books to get me going.
1/ 8086 programming manual.
2/ How to drive PC video card manual in assembly language.

It was written on a 8088 PC with amber monitor and two floppy drives, not even a hard drive then.

We had an old colour monitor that had been used for Sinclair Spectrum.
I designed an interface to the PC for it and that was useful for colour.
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