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Old 4th November 2017, 01:02 PM   #41
kees52 is offline kees52  Netherlands
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Hi Kees, have you taken your portable spectrum meter outside and measure at different locations before you accuse someone deliberately using RF energy directed at your home?
Also, did you try measure if there's an elevated RF field around your bed, would have been interesting to know if the claimed coil spring bed antenna anomaly is true.

In the past when I used mobile phones much more than these days it gave me intermittent high pitched faint tinnitus only on the air I held the phone at, especially if the phone call lasted ca 15 minutes or longer, and I have been always aware of not dialing up the volume too high up which is a common mistakes with headphones and earbuds.
So nowadays when I can, I use the external speaker on the phone and lay the phone down on the desk while talking, (the mobile phone microphones adapts to external use so don't have to shout!), it works very well, or alternatively using a wired earbud.

Wired headphones also causes high pitched faint tinnitus after prolonged use, in opposition to mobile phones in this case it appears on both ears.
Several years ago when I noticed this phenomena I put two larger ferrite blockers on the cable near the jack because I suspected the RF energy entered the headphones especially when listening to media directly from the PC which is a known HF noise source.
Later I found out it's the same when having the headphones connected to the audio amplifier.

One peculiar thing I noticed is, if I some times (happened many times) I listened only to one song or few while sitting in front of my PC I would some times forget the song had ended and kept the earphones on my head even for an hour before I realized it, much probably I was too much into what I did on my PC, maybe I am wrong but that's how I come concluded that wired earphones probably picks up RF energy and causes tinnitus after a while without any whatsoever sound played back.
The earphone wire in itself is a potentially perfect antenna to pick up RF energy.

Have been thinking of open the cans and solder in two ferrite beads on each side, both signal and GND, hopefully it will work. Same thing should be done with the mobile phone earbud too.

Nonetheless, as far as it concerns me I don't feel particularly bothered with above mentioned "problems", it's just my own observations and they are there, however, electro smog is nothing to dismiss out of hand, the future will tell.
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I have no elevated rf field around the bed, because there is almost no radiation, only the ruckus mast do some -37 dB 5.8 Ghz signal who is not that strong, but it is there.

I have measure outside and inside, the home, it is stronger on one nabure then the other, and maybe it is even the smart meter, so I can go try by mother's home in other city of there is the same trouble to exclude.

I have try the forum of aariona manufactor of the meter but she do not activate it, a other forum for ham radai did also not activate so I can nmot ask how to setup the meter. I have done a measurement in mine home over the whole max sweep with the pc software who is also with it.

I do not use earphones, the high pitch in ears is now present, it dissapears when I go to mine mother, who lives in a old concrete manufactorer building who is rebuild as apartments. she has wifi so the small sticks people use do not cause trouble, I have a cable though.

I do not like to put ferrite on the cable of the scope for measurement to get interfenrece out, the signal strength nabure was is illegal in mine eyes, industrie systems (a ruckus costs 2700 euro) need not to be here, as ruckus say it are special for industrie area, hotels, hospitals) but the Netherlands do always put industrie above people wel being, maybe people has to go faster to durable products like we do here already for years.

I di just measure all frerquencies programmed, so al known transmittors in mine bedroom who is on top of the house just under the roof, all the signals are well down except the ruckus who do -37dB the rest like umts, gsm, wifi, etc is -65 to -80dB only mine home where I work is very contaminated with rf fields and radar. I do now here do fly chinooks and apache militairy helicopters, also here she fly until midnight, disrupt sleep of people who has to work, but these do not radiate radar.. Maybe a datalink present>? there are datalink transmitters who do that on very high frequency, or I can coming week get a friend who collect all kind of apparatus from old times and has also 25 Ghz spectrumanalyers, with picture tube.

picture is mine home with the pc software,

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Old 4th November 2017, 10:12 PM   #42
lcsaszar is offline lcsaszar  Hungary
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Do KPN have any RF interference measuring service? In my country if you report that your TV or radio reception is disturbed by a suspected RF interference, they come to the site with a mobile measuring car, and spot the interference source. Then they force to stop such activity by law. You don't need to complain about any health issues (I think the regulations are not so strict there, and difficult to objectively measure), only bad TV or radio reception. Call them and they will stop it. They don't even enter your apartment, they measure on the street with a specially equipeed car with antennas, spectrum analyzers and all that stuff.

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Old 5th November 2017, 11:22 AM   #43
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Do KPN have any RF interference measuring service? In my country if you report that your TV or radio reception is disturbed by a suspected RF interference, they come to the site with a mobile measuring car, and spot the interference source. Then they force to stop such activity by law. You don't need to complain about any health issues (I think the regulations are not so strict there, and difficult to objectively measure), only bad TV or radio reception. Call them and they will stop it. They don't even enter your apartment, they measure on the street with a specially equipeed car with antennas, spectrum analyzers and all that stuff.
Mine tv and radio is fine, I have a dish outside who is outside the rf, but I have already mail them with the litle movie with the rf radiation, so I wait for respons.

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Old 7th November 2017, 04:21 PM   #44
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Don't take it offending, but if you can't prove it then it does not exists. I mean nobody will care about it until it harms their financial interest. And (don't take it for yourself) there are lunatics out there who have some kind of monomania and everybody laugh on them. So you need to prove 1. that your problem is real and 2. that it harms someone's (yours or your provider's) financial interest.

Any discomfort or health issue is not a good proof. And your high-tech measurements however obvious are for you, they are too technical for the authorities. I can tell you right now that they will not interested in your measurements.

But if you report that terrestial TV (DVB-T) and WiFi and FM radio reception in your house is disrupted (even if you don't use such services tell them you do so), they potentially lose you as a subscriber. No need to show them your measurements, don't even mention them. They will bring THEIR measuring instruments for which they believe. From that point it is their (KPN and/or internet provider) legal obligation to stop all interference at your address of subscription.
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Old 7th November 2017, 05:24 PM   #45
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Don't take it offending, but if you can't prove it then it does not exists. I mean nobody will care about it until it harms their financial interest. And (don't take it for yourself) there are lunatics out there who have some kind of monomania and everybody laugh on them. So you need to prove 1. that your problem is real and 2. that it harms someone's (yours or your provider's) financial interest.

Any discomfort or health issue is not a good proof. And your high-tech measurements however obvious are for you, they are too technical for the authorities. I can tell you right now that they will not interested in your measurements.

But if you report that terrestial TV (DVB-T) and WiFi and FM radio reception in your house is disrupted (even if you don't use such services tell them you do so), they potentially lose you as a subscriber. No need to show them your measurements, don't even mention them. They will bring THEIR measuring instruments for which they believe. From that point it is their (KPN and/or internet provider) legal obligation to stop all interference at your address of subscription.
It's is exactly what you say, you are right.

However the signals are from mine nabure and a small company, and the radar signals do not belong here as far I now now, it is on purpose to radiate me.

I have won a case in 2006 with a gsm mast, the local goverment has to give me a other home the judge demand, and that is happened, because the judge say that hospital did see that sleep disruping is from that radiation, the judge did say it is not yet clear of it do harm, but the opposite situation that it do not harm is also not yet found, so he did give me right, to prevent further damage on mine health.

I have now made a other video and soon someone comes here, also the telekom come make measurements because it is radar of quit strong signals who do not belong in mine house. upstairs where I sleep is clean now, I do get low menatoline levels because of exposing on daytime in mine livingroom.

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Old 14th November 2017, 12:16 PM   #46
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I have now put foly on the wall where I watch tv, after some days I do sleep better, but it needs more, the WLAN signals however come through, but weakening somewhat, the radar signals do go down to -56 dB so not vissible anymore.

What I can do is put aluminium foly on the wall and after that put wallpaper over it, because if I do not it looks very bad al this reflections.

here is the measurement, now I have done the setup right, I have use 9 Ghz with a span of 400 Mhz. I have also measure on other places by friends 4 km away, also there are this signals present, here do fly apache helicopters and chinooks, these do fly low over populated area,s as a drill, every day, making a very chaking noise, the house chakes, but I ask if she do use radar, yes the do but these can not get into a home with so much strength, tyhe radar stations are 19 km away.

So I go make mine home radiant free, better then fight against it.

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After the beep I go measure WLAN after some minuteso on the movie.
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