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Old 16th March 2019, 10:36 PM   #931
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awesome cars for sure, much better engineered than the us made cars at that time
But like all the early budget Mitsu's the cheap plastic could not handle the Florida heat and started to crack after a few years....I ditched mine before that happened.

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340 was a great engine
I never had one, but a friend had a 340 Demon that was pure wicked on wheels.

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I had a 68 Camaro Convertible. When the 327 died of old age and smoking at almost 200K miles, in went a built 350. You had to be careful not to hit second gear too hard or you would break loose both back tires at speed. My buddie's automatic 340 Demon was faster, but he had some $$$ in that motor. He went 12's at the local 1/4 mile track. My Camaro ran traction limited high 13's. The convertible was too flexible to hook up good tires anyway without a subframe or a cage.

As I said earlier I traded the Champ for FWD Charger. It was the first of 3 Chargers I would own over the years. The second got a turbo motor and transaxle out of a Daytona and a healthy dose of Shelby help and upgrades. I often won the battle on the dragstrip against the 5.0 Mustangs of the late 80's, and held my own at the autocross track until the second gen RX-7 came. It would go low 13's with the exhaust removed on a cold day.
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low 13 sec quarter miles was very respectable back in the day.
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Old 17th March 2019, 01:13 AM   #933
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You guys are killing me! The wife had a Dodge (Mitsubishi) Colt sedan after the CRX. I remember putting a megaphone exhaust on it. That thing sounded like a Kawasaki KZ1000 at high rpms. Her girlfriend's husband had a 86-87 Civic Si. I put an ansa exhaust on it and beat my buddy 's 84 Maxima in a 2 out 3 drag race. That Si was quick!
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Old 17th March 2019, 01:20 AM   #934
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Low 13's was quite a surprise for a FWD Dodge Charger in the days before the FWD "sport compact" fad came and went.

I had some help from a few random interactions with people who knew how to make these little cars fly. I had purchased a used Charger 2.2 for far below market price with some issues. I just ignored the "funny noises" and drove the car until the transaxle grenaded itself all over the road. A bearing had failed spitting out it's rollers, one of which found its way into the gears at 40 MPH locking the front wheels, throwing the car sideways off the road and splitting the transaxle case.

A junkyard shopping spree had discovered a freshly wrecked turbo Daytona with a 5 speed transaxle. I had a 4 speed. Would the 5 speed drop into my car? Would the whole drivetrain fit into my car? No turbo Omni's or Chargers existed, so there must be issues, right? All Omni's / Chargers at the time were carbureted. The Daytona had EFI. I had a book called Carroll Shelby's 2.2 Speed Secrets which had a phone number for the Chrysler / Shelby Performance center, so I called looking for these answers.

A receptionist answered, so I asked to talk to someone who could answer some technical questions. The next voice I heard was Carroll Shelby's. He told me that there was indeed going to be some turbo Chargers with his name on them in the dealer's show rooms starting in 1985, and a guy at his shop named Steve had built the first prototype from a 1982 Charger and a 1984 turbo powertrain exactly like what was in the junkyard. He put me on the phone with Steve for the details. First of many phone calls.

I stuffed the powertrain in the car, hand wired a harness from the one ripped out of the Daytona, and the one from my Charger, plumbed the fuel injection and installed the correct (purchased from Shelby) fuel pump in the tank. Eventually I got it running, and began my quest for more power. As the turbo's boost was turned up, the parts breakage started. Head gaskets.....I went through several. Mr Shelby tells me that he has discovered that piston pins and connecting rods become an issue at the power levels I'm getting. Upgrades are needed.

There was a local engine builder who had moved north to work for a company who specialized in 2.2 L Chrysler Turbo engines because they made cars that used those engines.....So I pay them a visit.....and leave with a "breakproof" rebuild of my engine. Full floating wrist pins, forged pistons, rods and crank, "O" ringed block deck, flow bench tweaked head......Don't twist it past 8000 RPM, he said. OK, my rev limiter was set at 7200.

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I never broke that engine.....Mr. Shelby sold me some guaranteed unbreakable half shafts, and I never needed that guarantee either.....but I got real good at rebuilding transaxles. I was already past where Mr. Shelby limited the torque in all cars sold through Dodge, so stuff broke, and the bigger transaxle would not fit in the little cars.

All of that tweaking got me to a 13.2 something timeslip one January night with the catalytic converter removed, no exhaust past the downpipe. Best previous time was 14.4 something. Running a full exhaust usually got me high 13's. Just enough to beat the stock 5.0 Mustangs, which depending on driver were high 13 to mid 14 cars or worse.

With the oddball 225 / 55 VR 14 tires (stock on a VW Sirocco 16V) I could just hit the 7200 RPM rev limiter in 5th gear. That works out to 154 MPH, and a really surprised Corvette driver! With my usual 15 inch wheels the car would slow down when shifted to 5th, but I could cover the 1/4 in 3 gears. The 14 inch wheels required a third shift which gave a slower time, but faster trap speed.
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My father had the 85 Chysler Lebaron GTS Turbo!
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My father had the 85 Chysler Lebaron GTS Turbo! .....My wife's 2016 Volvo S60 has stop-start tech
My parents had several Volvos. I inherited the 1999 V70 after my father passed. In another coincidence it was at National Trail Raceway near Columbus where i ran it into a ditch busting a hole in the oil pan requiring a tow, a lift and a lot of JB weld to fix. I used to go to the Mopar Nationals in August every year, but I haven't gone in a while.
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I just happened across this video today. It's a retro-review on the 1985 Shelby Turbo Charger. It it similar to what I started with before the quest for more power.

The first comment echos my findings nearly exactly....Smoking a Vette or two, top speed of 152 MPH, and 13 seconds at 103 in the 1/4 mile.......and it's dead due to a blown transaxle. I rebuilt mine 4 or 5 times.

As in the 80's opinions of these cars run from love to hate....with an empty void in the middle. There were some other fast ones mentioned in the comments......and the deal about torque steer was very real.....never pop the clutch without a two handed firm grip on the wheel. You never know which way it's going to yank you either, that decision was made by the tires and the pavement.

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