I also note quite a bit of bitterness here too!
I have an extreme tolerance for bitterness, organoleptically that is, and zero tolerance for hot as in capiscum (go figure). Also think you can't put enough cilantro in salsa.
Jacco, you didn't tell me it does not fully wash out. My pants now give me red hot knees.
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I think some of the contributors here could learn quite a lot from modest and unassuming Shunyata founder Caelin Gabriel.
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Still missing the point. The goal's the key, not the means to achieving it - so, the first objective is to be able to consistently reach that goal, no matter how ridiculous or obscure the method is for doing so. Then, having established that the goal is not an illusion, some bizarre random event that can never be repeated, you can then progress to the next stages. Which are, to understand, at least to some degree, the underlying mechanisms at play, and engineer a more sensible and repeatable method of achieving the goal.
If everyone keeps falling over, laughing, while playing the man rather than trying to see a bigger picture, then no progress will be made ...
If everyone keeps falling over, laughing, while playing the man rather than trying to see a bigger picture, then no progress will be made ...
Scott, if we meet up in Chicago this Fall, then let's whip up some salsa. My Mom can't take the heat so I end up making a super mild batch and a super hot batch.
... or a method to take it "out of the problem". That's your choice
Mono button?
According to that logic we would do just as well to go up to people in the street and ask them for their opinions on what would improve our audio systems, or read tea leaves, or pick random words out of the dictionary. And who said anything about falling over laughing? Have you seen something funny in the extracts I posted?
Hello John. Can you give any examples where someone else's rather more extreme claims turned out to be correct, and were useful in your work?
Don't see how you make the connection from trying to experience and understand some phemonenon, to random behaviour ... if you don't want to consider that something interesting may be occurring, or be relevant, that's fine, but for those with curiosity who come across something doesn't make sense at first glance, it may be a signal for a treasure hunt ...
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Thanks, John. I think too many people get confused between others finding something interesting happening, and those other people's explanations for what's occurring. A discoverer is not necessarily a rigorous scientist, or adept engineer; or perhaps he just intends to throw the idle curious off track ...
CopperTop;
That series of posts was great. Comedy is as much about delivery as it is content.
Is it coincidence that Shunyata chose the name 'Zitron' for the system?
And yes with regards to technical equipment the german sentence "Das Ding ist eine Zitrone" means the same as the literal english translation "That thing is a lemon".
Why do all the best audio gizmos always seem to emerge from top-secret military research whose details can't be disclosed for public scrutiny? Why is there an assumption that if the military have been persuaded to spend my money on something which (allegedly) helps them spy on the bad guys, that I should also spend my money on it to (allegedly) improve my sound system? Why is this stuff often invented by someone who failed to complete an EE/science degree? Surely it could not be because that might imply some knowledge but not becoming a fully paid-up member of the 'nasty engineer/scientist' club?CopperTop said:
It reminds me of the time when Hollywood male heroes were always divorced (in days when divorce was much rarer than today): the implication was that they were experienced but free.
The fact the particular system mentioned benefited from the particular "snake oil" products of a particular company is quite irrelevant; what is relevant is that the combination worked, to raise the standard of replay very significantly. The chap behind the company picked up some clues, by accident or happy experiment, found that many systems seemed to benefit, and went gangbusters on promoting it. And is probably making a decent living out of doing so, in the very best capitalist tradition ...
Which is all besides the point ... the real point is that something of interest is happening there ... and is anyone going to do some intelligent investigation of it? Most likely not, meaning there will be another round of snake oil products from someone else vaguely copying that success -- and someone else, and so on ...
Which is all besides the point ... the real point is that something of interest is happening there ... and is anyone going to do some intelligent investigation of it? Most likely not, meaning there will be another round of snake oil products from someone else vaguely copying that success -- and someone else, and so on ...
One reason may simply be that the military catches the most "interesting" research before it is patented / revealed to the public, and then keeps it secret....
Maybe because the person in question then have NOT "learned" all the "limits and rules" (that really do not exist) and maybe then also lost interest in a pensum the person understood was a possibly waste of time..
If a person have completed to much education it is nearly impossible to un-learn enough for the person to become a 'pure scientist' and will continue to be an 'applied scientist'....
"Normally everything is approached in the light of a preconceived theory - the ‘normal’ scientist has thus learned a technique which can be applied without asking for the reason why. As a consequence, the scientist has become what may be called an ‘applied’ scientist, in contradistinction to a ‘pure scientist’."
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