Sound Quality Vs. Measurements

[billshurv]

prions are worse than not alive, they are just proteins that bent wrong. And like terminator very hard to destroy. Burn the cow? prions survive.

 

[snup]

billshurv
I have a barely alive one in front of me. What do I do ?

 

[nigel pearson]

We all should be careful. Very soon we can return to conditions where we can die in millions. It won't take much.

This was OK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvTfkMhEw3g

 

[billshurv]

billshurv
I have a barely alive one in front of me. What do I do ?

Cow or prion? I am ignorant on dealing with either!

 

[snup]

So am I. Thats why I'm asking for help. It's dying in my hands....

 

[billshurv]

time for the vet?

 

[nigel pearson]

Smile I guess?

I wish the UK would research drugs as public science. Sell the results to the UK at low prices and the world at drug company prices. If not the drugs we need will never be made.

 

[snup]

electronics expert will do

 

[billshurv]

@snup: u have completely lost me now.

At risk of daring to try and put this thread back on track. KEF Blade Two loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com. Not sure I have seen a set of measurements this good before.

 

[snup]

Nothing to do with the thread. measurements are back on track. False alarm. Panic took over.
Pretend I dont exist and have fun.

 

[bcarso]

@snup: u have completely lost me now.

At risk of daring to try and put this thread back on track. KEF Blade Two loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com. Not sure I have seen a set of measurements this good before.

JBL M2. Superb flatness on axis, very smooth off-axis response. I criticize them for bundling it with Levinson power amps (it does have a little electronic EQ), not because Levinsons are bad but because customers want to mix and match things.

 

[billshurv]

For some reason I thought the M2s were more expensive than that. Actually 'affordable' for the performance. Not sure memsahib would allow them in the living room tho!

 

[bcarso]

For some reason I thought the M2s were more expensive than that. Actually 'affordable' for the performance. Not sure memsahib would allow them in the living room tho!

Toole said he will be installing them in his living room. Remarkably, his wife is in accord. Right now most of the loudspeakers for the 7.1 channel system are long narrow Infinity ones on poles, considerably less obtrusive

He will be getting a decent discount too, I'm sure, although he has formally retired from Harman.

 

[billshurv]

I should hope she is. However I suspect the good Dr. Toole has a somewhat larger living room than mine.

 

[bcarso]

I should hope she is. However I suspect the good Dr. Toole has a somewhat larger living room than mine.

It's a nice place, but no McMansion.

 

[billshurv]

wouldn't have to be to beat my 11x12' space.

 

[fas42]

As they say, there's nothing new under the sun! Things are worked out, then put away on a shelf to gather dust, and largely forgotten, dismissed - it's all very amusing, standing at a distance from it all ...

I was investigating sites that measure speaker driver behaviour, and went to DIY-Loudspeakers, and came across a mention of Einstein The Amp, http://einstein-audio.de/en/history/

I never thought I'd buy a twenty years old solid state amp, but this one is special. This 60 wpc amp runs the ATS-4 - all of it - without any trouble. The most dynamic and deep bass I've ever heard from a 60 watt solid state. Bought for 800 € on eBay 2013. It may not have the holographic midrange of the GlowMaster, but overall coherence is phenomenal. And it's very much class AB... never say never.

This type of capability sounds very familiar, so looked around and found some internal pics, but these back at Einstein-The-Amp are the best ... . Notice there are a few caps inside, ?? The oomph of all-conquering power supplies weaves its magic, Yet Again, ...

 

[billshurv]

Of course. Correlation and causality. Never mixed up at all.

 

[Max Headroom]

Anecdotal....

....Notice there are a few caps inside, ?? The oomph of all-conquering power supplies weaves its magic, Yet Again, ...

I counted 52 x 1000uF 63V per channel.
ME Sound amps used an array of caps called 'Power matrix' totalling 330,000 uF.
Relaxedness/effortless, biggest, solidest bass I have heard.

Dan.

 

[fas42]

The interesting thing is, that it's very easy to verify both via simulations and real world experimenting that the quality of power supplies is extremely important, yet they are nearly always treated as being of second order importance. My ears over the years have had to endure much mediocre sound from systems lacking quality engineering in this area, and it seems this trend will continue ...