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Old 5th September 2019, 08:01 PM   #1741
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Jan,

Thank you for the update! This clears a lot of confusion. I will look into the schematic again.

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There's two resistor on top of each other, one end to Vout, the other end to gnd, the mid to -input opamp. Those are the ones that set the output voltage by 'multiplying up' the ref voltage at the +input of the opamp.

On the schematic in the diyaudio store, R7 (pos) and R14 (neg) are the 'bottom' ones that are connected to gnd, just as the reference. The 'top' is R7 (pos) and R13 (neg), these are connected to Vout.

Agreed?

Edit: 'bottom' I mean at gnd, not physically, sorry. I think in voltages ;-)

There is indeed a cap // R7, R13 to make the voltage division for AC equal to one, for better regulation.

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Old 9th September 2019, 07:17 AM   #1742
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Hi Jan,

Would you check writing in this link to see if there is any issue on calculating values of R13 and R14? This is hyperlink on diyaudio store product page of superreg.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10...62409842112246

I have read through materials again. Based on your replies to others and me, bottom resistor must have the same voltage with Vref to power opamp (as bottom resistor has one end to gnd, and one end to neg input of opamp). But the document said the opposite. It seems this document had R13 and R14 flipped.

Thanks!

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There's two resistor on top of each other, one end to Vout, the other end to gnd, the mid to -input opamp. Those are the ones that set the output voltage by 'multiplying up' the ref voltage at the +input of the opamp.

On the schematic in the diyaudio store, R7 (pos) and R14 (neg) are the 'bottom' ones that are connected to gnd, just as the reference. The 'top' is R7 (pos) and R13 (neg), these are connected to Vout.

Agreed?

Edit: 'bottom' I mean at gnd, not physically, sorry. I think in voltages ;-)

There is indeed a cap // R7, R13 to make the voltage division for AC equal to one, for better regulation.

Jan

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Old 9th September 2019, 09:56 AM   #1743
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Very good catch, you are absolutely right. It's R7 and R14 that have the same voltage as the reference (6.9V with the LM329). The other two resistors (R6, R13) thus have Vout-Vref across them.

I'll get the write-up updated. Sorry for any confusion ...

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Old 9th September 2019, 11:08 AM   #1744
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Done. Courtesy Jason.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/10...omizing_r2.pdf

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Old 9th September 2019, 08:09 PM   #1745
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Jan,

Thanks! I feel this is why you got asked about this calculation a lot previously.

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Old 23rd September 2019, 12:16 AM   #1746
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Default Troubleshooting

I have built the superreg per the BOM for +/- 14V. I have a raw supply of +/- 29V. On the positive side, the LED lights, but my output is a little over 7V. On the negative side, no LED illumination and no output. Testing was without a load on the regulators. I have gone over the pcb and no shorts, wrong values, etc.
Is the input voltage too large?
Do I need a load resistor, and what value, to get regulation for testing?
Any other thoughts on troubleshooting?
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Old 23rd September 2019, 06:50 AM   #1747
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A schematic with resistor values would be helpful.Then we can ask for specific measurements to diagnose & fix.

A quick one: did you connect the remote sensing points to the output points?

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Old 23rd September 2019, 03:02 PM   #1748
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Hi Jan,

I did not have the remote sense points connected to the outputs when making measurements.

I am using the diyaudio board v2.3 and stuffed with the BOM parts per your project update June 2015.
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Old 23rd September 2019, 10:39 PM   #1749
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I am reviewing posts #961-970 for some troubleshooting tips.
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Old 23rd September 2019, 11:31 PM   #1750
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With remote sensing connected to outputs and small load resistor (820R), all is well. Both LEDs illuminate and positive and negative outputs are 14.8V
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