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Old 19th February 2018, 07:18 AM   #1
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Default Adire Shivas: Anyone remember version differences?

I am hunting for an old Adire Shiva because I have a MKII with a Bash 500s amp and absolutely love it. I found a MKI but cannot remember the difference between the two versions (or III or IV). Does anyone else remember? Some internet searching does not yield much info (probably too long ago, hard to believe these subs are almost 20 years old!).
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Old 19th February 2018, 08:05 AM   #2
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Keep in mind, this was one of the first woofers that Parts Express copied. IIRC, the Titanic was made in the same factory (Eminence) to the same specs.

The Brahmas that came later were made by a build house in Vegas, which became Fi Car Audio.
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Old 19th February 2018, 08:36 AM   #3
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Adire Shivas:  Anyone remember version differences?
I had 8 of the 1st 100 units… i have attached the white paper from 1999 which has T/S.

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Old 19th February 2018, 08:08 PM   #4
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Differences in the T/S parameters of all four Mks.

There was one more Shiva (an entire series of different sizes up to 15", in fact) that was due to come out with XBL^2 (along the lines of the DPL-12, but with lower Mms), but then Chile happened. There might be some of those floating around as prototypes, but they never sold commercially, afaik.
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Old 19th February 2018, 08:21 PM   #5
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I had 8 of the 1st 100 units… i have attached the white paper from 1999 which has T/S.

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Man, Avatar Audio...that makes me feel old. I remember back when folks on the bass list were posting about how their single Shivas were supposedly cracking drywall, etc. Back when 12" subs were the monsters, 15"s were scarce and 18"s were nigh mythical and only for the most extreme basshead. But, things change, designs have improved and the hobby has progressed to bigger and more powerful drivers.
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Old 19th February 2018, 10:50 PM   #6
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Shivas were copied by many - the Parts Express DVC12 is essentially the same driver
Dayton Audio DVC310-88 12" DVC Series Subwoofer but they don't sell it any more...
probably the closest they have now is: Dayton Audio RSS315HF-4 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm
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Keep in mind, this was one of the first woofers that Parts Express copied. IIRC, the Titanic was made in the same factory (Eminence) to the same specs.
The Titanic wasn't the copy. It was the Dayton DVC-310-88 subwoofer. Basically it was the Shiva with push terminals and slightly better cosmetics.

If you want to see what a 10" version looks like, look for the ACI-SV10. And that one has a rubber, not a foam, surround. Still the driver for my main HT subwoofer.

Basically if you didn't care too much about looks and you wanted to move some serious air for cheap, these were the drivers to go for.
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The Titanic wasn't the copy. It was the Dayton DVC-310-88 subwoofer. Basically it was the Shiva with push terminals and slightly better cosmetics.

If you want to see what a 10" version looks like, look for the ACI-SV10. And that one has a rubber, not a foam, surround. Still the driver for my main HT subwoofer.

Basically if you didn't care too much about looks and you wanted to move some serious air for cheap, these were the drivers to go for.
You are correct!

I'm REALLY digging back in the memory banks, but for some reason I recalled that the Parts Express Titanic was a clone of something. I vaguely recall it was from NHT.

There was a speaker company similar to Madisound in California, that's long gone, named "Just Speakers" IIRC. They offered the NHT woofer for sale, and the PE Titanic was a copy.

Again, this goes back something like 25 years.

The NHT 3.3 has a 12" woofer, but I don't think it's the same one. The one that PE copied has a paper cone IIRC:

NHT 3.3 loudspeaker Specifications | Stereophile.com

About ten years ago, a big stash of NHT drivers appeared out of nowhere, and I remember there were a bunch for sale at that time.

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On a side note, every time I see an MCM 55-2421, it reminds me of what an 8" version of the Shiva would've looked like. Still a screaming deal at $30, if you can figure out how to build a box that's small enough to hold it lol

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...it was the Shiva with push terminals…
Personally i prefer the solder terminals.

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10" version
My favorite 10” is the CSS SDX10 which has been resurrected and i understand will start shipping again next week.

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About ten years ago, a big stash of NHT drivers appeared out of nowhere
Not out of no-where, they were left-overs from the shutting down of NHT. Sold by Hindley of NHT. I grabbed a whack of the Foster plat-amps — still have a few.

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