Are there any ~95dB efficient 80-300hz midbass horns that could be used as the low end in a three-way that gets crossed over to subwoofer (also a horn) below 80hz?
Looking for something nice to use from 80-300hz in three-way with an 8" coaxial speaker like B&C or Tannoy.
I like the sound of horns and want nice midbass kick.
Driver size should be 8" to 12" max due to enclosure width constraints.
Looking for something nice to use from 80-300hz in three-way with an 8" coaxial speaker like B&C or Tannoy.
I like the sound of horns and want nice midbass kick.
Driver size should be 8" to 12" max due to enclosure width constraints.
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The Turbosound TMS1 lower midbass horn enclosure comes to mind. Flattish to 90hz, down -6dB at 80hz. Optimized for cross at 300hz.
Specs here:
http://stagersound.com/studio/Turbosound TMS1.pdf
Specs here:
http://stagersound.com/studio/Turbosound TMS1.pdf
"Are there any ~95dB efficient 80-300hz midbass horns that could be used as the low end in a three-way that gets crossed over to subwoofer (also a horn) below 80hz?"
No.
An Altec A7 horn is about 30"W x 20"H x 24" deep, is driven by a 15" woofer, and loads well down to about 160hz.
It would need to be 2x larger to work well at 80hz.
In theory an 80hz horn could be 1/4W deep (42") plus the depth of the driver, and would need a mouth of about 42" square, or a circumference of 168" (53" diameter).
No.
An Altec A7 horn is about 30"W x 20"H x 24" deep, is driven by a 15" woofer, and loads well down to about 160hz.
It would need to be 2x larger to work well at 80hz.
In theory an 80hz horn could be 1/4W deep (42") plus the depth of the driver, and would need a mouth of about 42" square, or a circumference of 168" (53" diameter).
"Are there any ~95dB efficient 80-300hz midbass horns that could be used as the low end in a three-way that gets crossed over to subwoofer (also a horn) below 80hz?"
No.
An Altec A7 horn is about 30"W x 20"H x 24" deep, is driven by a 15" woofer, and loads well down to about 160hz.
It would need to be 2x larger to work well at 80hz.
In theory an 80hz horn could be 1/4W deep (42") plus the depth of the driver, and would need a mouth of about 42" square, or a circumference of 168" (53" diameter).
Thank you.
you might just be able to use a K12 with the little coax. Make a test Karlson out of something cheap and play with the porting and lowpass gap. A K12 with Kappa 12A would be pretty kicky in that range.
No, a K12 won't work in this particular instance because of the mounting location & size available.
Only a Karlsonator Sk8 would fit. But the mounting location would not benefit the wings very well.
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For exactly such a situation I use a rescaled (1:1.42) Bruce Edgar "Show Horn"
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In theory an 80hz horn could be 1/4W deep (42") plus the depth of the driver, and would need a mouth of about 42" square, or a circumference of 168" (53" diameter).
Such a horn is at least 102dB/W, fully optimized it approaches 105. To get 95dB you should be able to make it smaller. For that matter, 95dB wouldn't even require a horn, just a pair of 12's in a box. My 2x12 conventional top cabs will beat that, and they're ony 4 cubic feet.
"To get 95dB you should be able to make it smaller"
It won't be horn-loaded at that point, as per his request.
1/4W is the 90° point in a waveform, maximum amplitude. If the horn is smaller than this (or uses an external boundary) it will not load well. 1/4W horns don't really get smooth until they're 1/2W long, morst HF horns are made this size.
It's easy to get 95dB in the 80hz~300hz band, but not horn-loaded.
It won't be horn-loaded at that point, as per his request.
1/4W is the 90° point in a waveform, maximum amplitude. If the horn is smaller than this (or uses an external boundary) it will not load well. 1/4W horns don't really get smooth until they're 1/2W long, morst HF horns are made this size.
It's easy to get 95dB in the 80hz~300hz band, but not horn-loaded.
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