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#31 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina
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What indianajo and wgski said.
When you replace caps and transistors, remeasure (noload, still with dim bulbI) and post results. As of : Quote:
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#32 |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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And if you still have one working pair of output transistors, you can use them to make sure everything else is ok while you wait on new ones to arrive. Parallel pairs are only needed to handle a heavy load. A single in each side will work to check everything else, once dead diodes and resistors are replaced. The voltage on the hot side of the output cap should still center, and the amp should pass a signal into a light load (say 100 ohms). The light bulb limiter will prevent any other damage if there is still something that was missed, and it would be better to find it now before putting in new 15024s.
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#33 |
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Hi all, I am installing my parts from Digikey and wanted to confirm the pinout of my transistors (datasheet here). The datasheet is not entirely clear which pin is the base and which is the emitter; the picture seems to show an arbitrary orientation. Do I have it correct in the picture below?
In addition, I'm a bit confused about the electrical connection of the case (red wire). The cases of the transistors aren't connected electrically to the middle pins of the transistor sockets, so what exactly is the purpose of the red wires? Thanks again for the help. |
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#34 |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA
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For TO3 pin identification see post 25. I think this picture is looking from the long direction at the pins, but if not, other way.
I didn't take it apart so I don't know where the red wire goes. Possibly to one of the collectors but you have to get the right one. Each has an individual wire. Two of the collectors go to the centerline, the + of the speaker capacitor. Two of the collectors go to the +74 supply. Peavey later used the screws on the ends of the transistors to connect to a PCB; I don't know if they were doing it in 197? The screws must be insulated from the aluminum plate since all 4 transistors are mounted on it. If this was disassembled and abandoned by a previous owner, you'll have to trace the base & emitter leads and compare to the schematic diagram to figure out which pair of output transistors is which. Then install red wire for the +74 and some other color (I use orange) for the centerline.
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#35 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina
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Those cases ARE connected to the middle strip by the mounting screws.
And you got E and B right, at least on the last picture. Your 45 degree angle is somewhat confusing, a 90 degree picture would be much better, then there is no doubt whatsoever about E-B-C pinout.
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#36 |
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Good point about the screws; I had to clean up the head to make good contact with the case. That makes sense now.
To be 100% sure, the attached picture is accurate, correct? |
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#37 |
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Buenos Aires - Argentina
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Yes.
Now itīs easier to see that E and B pins are not halfway between mounting screws but shifted towards one end. Your labelling is fine.
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#38 |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA
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If all output transistor collectors are shorted together by the heat bar, then the schematic of post #12 is not accurate.
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#39 |
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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The collectors are not shorted together by the chassis, I was mistaken.
Should I power up with the variac or just the dim bulb tester? |
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#40 |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Jeffersonville, Indiana USA
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I don't own a variac, and I get by. 60 W bulb for amps to 100 W/ch, a 6 ohm room heater element on 650 W/ch amps (because the 100 W bulb did not allow the op amps to work on that big amp.)
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