Ultra-high performance, yet rather simple - hybrid and more!

Here are some pictures from my construction.
Some notes:
a. I was looking for about 100W per channel. Capacitance reservoir is CRC style, there are 2 x 6800uF capacitos per channel.
b. The box is used for the third time now - the previous amps did not satisfy my preferences. So you could find some holes that are not used this time.
c. Soft start is also from older project. It is based on CMOS counter that counts pulses from power supply and then switch on relay.
d. DC protection I already described in my previous post.

This is the first time when I used tube ;) . Used tubes are made by JJ electronic producer.

Have fun,
Ladislav
 

Attachments

  • TubSuMo1.jpg
    TubSuMo1.jpg
    489.9 KB · Views: 895
  • TubSuMo detail.jpg
    TubSuMo detail.jpg
    691.3 KB · Views: 867
  • TubSuMo2.jpg
    TubSuMo2.jpg
    465.1 KB · Views: 810
  • TubSuMo3.jpg
    TubSuMo3.jpg
    531.8 KB · Views: 812
Here are some pictures from my construction.
Some notes:
a. I was looking for about 100W per channel. Capacitance reservoir is CRC style, there are 2 x 6800uF capacitos per channel.
b. The box is used for the third time now - the previous amps did not satisfy my preferences. So you could find some holes that are not used this time.
c. Soft start is also from older project. It is based on CMOS counter that counts pulses from power supply and then switch on relay.
d. DC protection I already described in my previous post.

This is the first time when I used tube ;) . Used tubes are made by JJ electronic producer.

Have fun,
Ladislav

2 x transformers, 2 x PSU boards - I like the approach :up:
 
I'm running a 55vdc rails voltage and the noise in the speaker seems to be that it lacks ground
I did the right thing and please help with this noise
thank you
 

Attachments

  • 22893945_1469088363207246_5737948127180889403_n.jpg
    22893945_1469088363207246_5737948127180889403_n.jpg
    94.1 KB · Views: 163
  • 22853343_1469088503207232_2784114480698218698_n.jpg
    22853343_1469088503207232_2784114480698218698_n.jpg
    77.3 KB · Views: 172
  • 22853060_1469088303207252_276734542614086339_n.jpg
    22853060_1469088303207252_276734542614086339_n.jpg
    87.8 KB · Views: 247
  • 22815117_1469088563207226_5102369900743063573_n.jpg
    22815117_1469088563207226_5102369900743063573_n.jpg
    91.3 KB · Views: 640
  • 22815271_1469089203207162_71789983312931166_n.jpg
    22815271_1469089203207162_71789983312931166_n.jpg
    89.3 KB · Views: 184
I'm running a 55vdc rails voltage and the noise in the speaker seems to be that it lacks ground
I did the right thing and please help with this noise
thank you

Hi,

Normally, if the amplifier is wired properly, it is very quiet at idle.
First thing I would recommend - put 2 x 0.1uF capacitors between both tube filament connection wires and the main PSU ground.
Also, revise your grounding scheme - see a good article on amplifier wiring here:
GROUND LOOPS: HOW TO WIRE-UP AN AUDIO AMPLIFIER FOR ZERO HUM AND NOISE

Let us know how it goes ;)

Cheers,
Valery
 
Hi,

Normally, if the amplifier is wired properly, it is very quiet at idle.
First thing I would recommend - put 2 x 0.1uF capacitors between both tube filament connection wires and the main PSU ground.
Also, revise your grounding scheme - see a good article on amplifier wiring here:
GROUND LOOPS: HOW TO WIRE-UP AN AUDIO AMPLIFIER FOR ZERO HUM AND NOISE

Let us know how it goes ;)

Cheers,
Valery
I have finished editing the noise.
I play music to small volume sounds very good,I opened louder the sound seemed to be broken sound at the speaker
 
Something is not right. It should produce quality sound almost up to clipping.
Can you please show the sine waves (1KHz, 10KHz) at some high swing?
One more question - what is your rails voltage?
If the capacitor is attached to it it will not suffer.
I ran the 55vdc rails.
 

Attachments

  • 23379927_1479016005547815_6851874121818819215_n.jpg
    23379927_1479016005547815_6851874121818819215_n.jpg
    165.1 KB · Views: 244
Did you look at the sine / square waves with an oscilloscope at different output swings?
Do you see some ringing / oscillation at the output?

It would be good if you would publish the schematics of both IPS and OPS modules exactly "as built" - I would be able to give some recommendations then.
 
Nice Amp.
Always wanted to build a tube hybrid amp.
Any link to final version of this IPs and OPS board.
I have a few pairs of MJL 21193 / 94 and 2sc2922 / 1216 and 2sk1530. trying to put them to good use. I might also have ECC88 tube- will have to search for it though.
 
I think the latest schematics are here. Ultra-high performance, yet rather simple - hybrid and more! The TubSuMo output board is designed to use lateral mosfet output devices, but the TubSuMo input pairs very well with the NS Output board. Revisiting some "old" ideas from 1970's - IPS, OPS. That output board can use 2SC2922 / 2SA1216 . You'll have problems finding a modern high power amplifer design that will work reliably with your MJL 21193 / 94 devices. They are too slow and will suffer from shoot through or cross conduction and self destruct with most EF3 designs.
 
Last edited:
I think the latest schematics are here. Ultra-high performance, yet rather simple - hybrid and more! The TubSuMo output board is designed to use lateral mosfet output devices, but the TubSuMo input pairs very well with the NS Output board. Revisiting some "old" ideas from 1970's - IPS, OPS. That output board can use 2SC2922 / 2SA1216 . You'll have problems finding a modern high power amplifer design that will work reliably with your MJL 21193 / 94 devices. They are too slow and will suffer from shoot through or cross conduction and self destruct with most EF3 designs.

Ok I can get more of 2sc2922 / 2sa1216 as needed.
Can you guide me to pcb layout for the same.
Also in one of the threads a image was posted for speaker protect.

Thanks
Vikram
 
Right - in general, there are 2 versions of the amplifier:
1) Through-hole version, utilizing 2 pairs of 2sk1058/j162 lateral FETs per channel;
2) SMD version, utilizing NS Modular OPS carrier board with 3 pairs of 2sc2922/a1216 per channel.

Option 2 is significantly more expensive because of the OPS cost.

ECC88 will not work properly here - the front-end is particularly designed for 12AU7/ECC82 tube.

Cheers,
Valery