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Old 2nd December 2019, 06:21 PM   #1681
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Old 3rd December 2019, 04:48 AM   #1682
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The Spin-O-Rama VCAD feature is the best thing that has happened to me in my study's the last two years.
Its a lot to take in and learn and I am more than willing to do that, I just want to say thank you for opening up my eye's to a new segment of measurements.
Its going to make my life simpler once I have dialed in the techniques involved.
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Old 4th December 2019, 01:39 PM   #1683
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Rev. 2.0.33.2 (2019-12-04)

Convert IR to FR
* Added Z/U button to set default values for impedance, voltage and acceleration exports. Replaces automatic setting added to rev. 2.0.32.0 (2019-11-28). Manual operation is more convenient if 'Microphone Used On' was accidentally unchecked while acoustical measurements with ARTA.
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Old 4th December 2019, 07:09 PM   #1684
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I've finally decided to try out VCAD. I've used other design programs, but the feature list for VCAD keeps growing. I read the "VCAD Measurement Preparations for REW" and I really only have one question:

The .pdf states "Rotation center is typically on surface of front baffle for the tweeter". My manual table is somewhat small so usually I center the speaker on the table. This results with the center of rotation being at the center of the speaker, not at the surface of the front baffle.

What is the recommended solution? I can think of a couple (e.g. bigger table), but just want to make I sure I'm understanding rotation correctly.

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Old 4th December 2019, 07:56 PM   #1685
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If you rotate around speaker center then the distance from the speaker dome/cone to the microphone will not remain constant and that will be a problem the bigger this offset is. I solved this also by building a bigger turntable (got pretty big diameter lazy susan bearings from Alibaba with a reasonable price).
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Old 4th December 2019, 07:57 PM   #1686
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^^Bigger table works ... until you have much bigger speaker or need to measure vertical plane of rectangular ribbon/planar without possibility to just rotate the driver. Might need some temporary baffle for measurements only.

Rotating top plate does not have to be circular and axis hole not in the center. Square 80x80cm should be quite adequate. Axis hole e.g. 20cm from the edge to allow tilted or stepped front baffle or spikes in front of speaker etc.
Base plate could be circular, diameter close to 100cm and axis hole in the center.

Some kind of thin rod with four legs for distance measurement could be nice because that is the most difficult phase due to accuracy requirement. With measurement tape it's easiest to rotate table +90 deg, align mic with front baffle and adjust distance from mic to the center of DUT to 1000 mm. Then rotate to -90 and verify alignment and distance 1000 mm i.e. system rotates vertically without swinging.

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Old 5th December 2019, 07:03 PM   #1687
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Thanks for the responses. I'll look into modifying my table.
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Old 6th December 2019, 10:43 PM   #1688
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Hi Kimmo,

would like to ask whether your program can take FR from measured elements, let say a bass and a tweeter element for a 2 way speaker project, and then in the VCAD program adjust the filter component values in real time by dragging with mouse cursor by grabbing the FR lines to our liking, is it possible to adjust FR in this way with VCAD?

I am not very good in conveying the above in words from what I have in mind, but I have a short animation mp4 file which shows what I mean, since it's few months ago I found it unfortunately the memory escapes me what that SW name is since I can't find the thread here on DiyA.

If VCAD can not for the moment perform such operation, may there be perhaps any future plans for such a feature?

Thanks and Regards, Michael
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Old 7th December 2019, 06:03 AM   #1689
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^VituixCAD has optimizer able to iterate component values to reach axial and power response target lines or driver's acoustical response or filter's electrical response target curves, but it's not so smart and fast than software in your video. Just simple multi-variable hill climbing algorithm which tests and selects values which improve the result i.e. decrease difference compared to targets.
I don't have resources to change algorithm much smarter. In addition, I design usually in manual mode without optimizer. That works as human learning too.
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Old 7th December 2019, 06:56 AM   #1690
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Rev. 2.0.33.3 (2019-12-07)

Enclosure
* Added 'Open recent enclosure project' button (arrow down) to the right side of 'Open enclosure project' button. Max 20 recent vxe filenames are saved to the list.
* Buttons and checkbox on the right renamed and moved up to make more room for driver table.
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