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MattSug 20th April 2018 07:06 AM

Mark Audio Pluvia 7 and Dayton RS100-8 opinions
 
I'm comparing these two drivers....for use in a sealed full range enclosure.

Mark Audio Pluvia 7 £85 a pair
Pluvia 7 – Soft Chrome/Vintage Gold (pair) | KJF Audio

Dayton RS100-8 opinions £70 a pair
Dayton Audio RS100-8 4" Reference Full-Range Driver 8 Ohm

I wonder if people who have used either could share their experiences with them? I see the Mark Audio CHR-70 seems to have been used a bit on here and I wonder if the Pluvia 7 is a similar performing driver.

The minimum recommended sealed enclosure for the Mark Audio seems to be 4.1L, where as the Dayton is stated at 1.7L, which appeals as I'd like these little mix cubes to be pretty small.

One of my greatest concerns is trying to get as much bass response out of such a small sealed unit.

planet10 20th April 2018 07:47 AM

The Pluvia 7 is a better driver than the CHR IMO. P7 is a good speaker. No experience with the Dayton.

dave

chrisb 20th April 2018 05:17 PM

Matt, you may have partially answered your own question - or at least predicted the Hoffman Iron Law problem - unless the driver is designed to handle the power and EQ required to deliver the nebulous “satisfactory” amount of bass response, a tiny sealed box may not cut it.

I don’t yet have experience with any of the Dayton drivers either, but as Dave states, the P7 is a very decent sounding piece - in enclosures larger than 2 liters. At that end of the scale, you might want to look at the FF85WK, and perhaps reconsider restricting yourself to sealed?

If I read the Dayton’s specs correctly, a .04cu ft sealed box will give you 136Hz - theoretically OK if you’re planning to add woofers, but I’d still want to put a HP filter to protect them. In a vented box approx .1 cu ft, it’ll give you a much more acceptable 67Hz.

ANSTAAFL

MattSug 20th April 2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisb (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/321697-mark-audio-pluvia-7-dayton-rs100-8-opinions-post5411234.html#post5411234)
Iíd still want to put a HP filter to protect them. In a vented box approx .1 cu ft, itíll give you a much more acceptable 67Hz.

ANSTAAFL

When you say protect them using a HP filter, what exactly is it being protected from? Is the speaker at risk of having to work too hard or something in a sealed enclosure?

MattSug 20th April 2018 07:01 PM

I'm not overly concerned about lack of bass as I also mix on some very bass heavy JBL4208s, which have 8" drivers! But I don't want to have some speakers that suck in the bass department either.

jwjarch 20th April 2018 07:49 PM

Mattsug,

Generally, a HP filter will protect the drivers from too much excursion. For these speakers you might filter out anything below 30-35Hz. You can do this with a line-level or speaker type crossover.

On the speakers. I'm using the Pluvia 7's in an open baffle with some 10" Visaton WS25E's for bass support below 375Hz in a sort of open baffle FAST or WAW approach. Pretty happy with the Pluvias right now on all genres of music at near field. I haven't had experience with the Dayton RS100's either but I do have a couple pairs of the Dayton PS95-8's that i'm very happy with. If you want to keep your boxes as small as possible the RS100's are probably the way to go. Curious, what would you be using for your crossover from the JBL's to the Dayton/Pluvias?

MattSug 20th April 2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwjarch (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/321697-mark-audio-pluvia-7-dayton-rs100-8-opinions-post5411333.html#post5411333)
Mattsug,

Generally, a HP filter will protect the drivers from too much excursion. For these speakers you might filter out anything below 30-35Hz. You can do this with a line-level or speaker type crossover.

On the speakers. I'm using the Pluvia 7's in an open baffle with some 10" Visaton WS25E's for bass support below 375Hz in a sort of open baffle FAST or WAW approach. Pretty happy with the Pluvias right now on all genres of music at near field. I haven't had experience with the Dayton RS100's either but I do have a couple pairs of the Dayton PS95-8's that i'm very happy with. If you want to keep your boxes as small as possible the RS100's are probably the way to go. Curious, what would you be using for your crossover from the JBL's to the Dayton/Pluvias?

Sorry you're misunderstanding, I'm planing to build some little mix cube speakers with the MarkAudios or Dayton, as a second reference pair of monitors. I'm currently using the JBLs as my main monitors, but they are too flattering in the bass department, which is why I'm looking for something with a bit more focus on the mid range which I can switch back and forth between.

jwjarch 20th April 2018 10:08 PM

Sorry MattSug, I read too fast and made up my own combination there. I would still say if size is the main concern then go with the RS100's. I think chrisb nailed it with his response.

chrisb 21st April 2018 03:51 AM

Not having heard the little JBLs - which are specifically designed by a firm with a fairly impressive legacy of building recording monitors- Iím thinking that switching between them and a clearly compromised mini cube FR driver system could cause any recording engineer more than a modicum of misdirection of attention.

perceval 21st April 2018 06:17 AM

If you only need to compare your mix on different setups, I'd go with a small commercial product, which would follow the trend these days, instead of building something unique that will not sound like any other speaker out there.


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