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Tranquility Bass 12th November 2014 06:24 AM

Hi-end DSP based multi-channel integrated Preamp/Crossover/DAC project
 
Greetings

This is my latest DSP Productt based around an Analog Devices 4th generation SHARC DSP and ES9038PRO Sabre DAC.

All updated information and details along with specs available at our new website by clicking here

Details and Specs for the Ultimate-Preamplifier Plus is available by clicking here

Details and Specs for the Ultimate-Preamplifier is available by clicking here

Pre-Order page for the Ultimate-Preamplifier is available by clicking here

Regards
David

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jcga 12th November 2014 04:27 PM

Hi,
this looks incredibly appealing !
Any approximate idea of the price and availability ?

Tranquility Bass 13th November 2014 01:36 AM

It depends on how much interest there is as this board has to built in quantities and can't be built by hand except for one off prototypes but don't expect minidsp prices !!

There are eight other support boards some of which are simple through hole boards and some are more complex surface mount boards.

I will post some of the other boards when I have completed them.

cheers

amoisis 13th November 2014 02:16 AM

Looks interesting should go well with my wire amps in an active setup :).

sumaudioguy 13th November 2014 02:47 AM

This is great but is like 10 times more DSP than most people would ever need. But, you know your target buyer better than me! Add up the need for a 5 way crossover, limiters, EQ, time correction for a surround sound system and bet there will be about 90% of the DSP cycle time left over.

Good luck with this though!

potstip 13th November 2014 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcga (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post4119843.html#post4119843)
Hi,
this looks incredibly appealing !
Any approximate idea of the price and availability ?

+++

Tranquility Bass 13th November 2014 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumaudioguy (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post4120359.html#post4120359)
This is great but is like 10 times more DSP than most people would ever need. But, you know your target buyer better than me! Add up the need for a 5 way crossover, limiters, EQ, time correction for a surround sound system and bet there will be about 90% of the DSP cycle time left over.

Good luck with this though!

But the game changes as soon as you start talking about FIR filters or linear phase filters for use in group delay correction or room correction etc. Then every clock cycle counts ;) This is why most of the lightweight DSP's have trouble doing decent size FIR filters and usually they are limited to low sampling rates of 48KHz with not much room for any other processing, because every time the sampling rate doubles the number of taps per sample interval halves !! So at 96KHz or 192KHz all of a sudden you have run out of taps before the next interrupt and your filter can no longer be processed. Then to compound matters you may need an FIR filter for the other stereo channel or 7 channels and then you are in real trouble so you end up have having one dsp board per channel and what you thought was a cheap solution has blown out the budget !!

Even with simple IIR filters you'd be surprised at how many clock cycles are chewed up for even a medium complexity crossover filter so in this case more is better and for the extra $$ of a SHARC DSP over a Sigma DSP it is well worth it ;)

cheers

Tranquility Bass 13th November 2014 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoisis (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post4120340.html#post4120340)
Looks interesting should go well with my wire amps in an active setup :).

That is one of its main applications for use in high quality active speakers. It has one S/PDIF output for use with an external DAC to drive subwoofers etc for a total of a 5-way stereo active speaker system ;)

cheers

tuyen 13th November 2014 06:57 AM

Well done on a cool design! I'd possibly be interested in a unit if the opportunity arises :)

jcga 13th November 2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranquility Bass (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post4120317.html#post4120317)
It depends on how much interest there is as this board has to built in quantities and can't be built by hand except for one off prototypes but don't expect minidsp prices !!

There are eight other support boards some of which are simple through hole boards and some are more complex surface mount boards.

I will post some of the other boards when I have completed them.

cheers

Again, the hardware described here looks to me like the best I've seen so far but I would point that the software/firmware will be as crucial as the hardware to get the benefit(success) of it.

And to answer to someone else, pointing that the power is too much for the home use, I'm running active loudspeakers for the past 20 years or so and yes FIR filters and first room modes corrections need a lot of DSP power.

JC


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