EAC non-compliant CUE sheets: which players work?
Good Afternoon, All.
I have been racking my brain for the past fortnight trying to work this out. My current task is to "computerise" my CD collection (so that I can remove my CD/DVD/VCR cabinet from my lounge room and so that I can find the CD's I want to play.)
My fundamental requirements are:
Also, there are few of us old fogies writing on these sites who insist on listening to albums from beginning to end or those albums which have contiguous track . (My local shop couldn't even work out what I was talking about. I had to pretend I was listening to live concerts from Lady Gaga before they understood whatt I meant. If I ever let the "Beethoven bomb" slip into my conversations, their faces glazed over.)
I like the idea of EAC (v1.0 Beta 3 from August 2011) and have ripped about three CD's but am confused with the CUE files. I have followed the blowfish recommendations for creating my FLACs:
Is there a solution to this?
Are there any players actually work to play EAC's non-compliant CUE files?
I can get Sgt Pepper and Wish You Were Here to play back correctly if I rip as a complete image. The CUE file created in this case plays correctly in Foobar2000.
I have written to this, my favourite audio forum, because of the accumulated and considered wisdom which appears lacking elsewhere on the WWW.
Anyway, if anyone can help me out, I would appreciate this.
P.S. You can see a small portion of my CD cabinet at the right of the pic on my webpage. GB
I am in the same situation as you are and also looking for feedback from those who are more familiar about cue sheet, etc.
There are a no. of exceptions in my case.
Firstly, I don't trust storing my files in the Hard drive, I will be storing them on BLU Ray discs(*). Also I wouldn't be converting all my existing CD discs
Secondly the size of Wav and Flac is not that much different I would rather store them(audio tracks)in WAV format and in future if there is a more efficient way to store them I will then convert all my WAV files. Henceforth I will convert as many of my audio disc tracks and store them in WAV format, which is as an advantage of being bit perfect. I don't think Flac is bit perfect.
* You can store about (40-45 CDs) in WAV format in 1*25G Bluray Disc assuming 555-600Mb in one CD.
Bluray discs as with all discs are also not always guaranteed to last, store on a hard drive and have backups.
Still got to to read the data of the bluray disc
Main question still unanswered ;)
Thanks for that chaps,
But my main question is:
Which media players will plan non-compliant CUE files from Exact Audio Copy? For example, Foobar doesn't and Winamp is supposed to but I can't get it to work.
I need to keep the gaps in my music as they are on the CD.
What I've been doing for 10 years and I listen to 'whole' albums:
Using Exact Audio Copy,
Pink Floyd's album "Wish You Were" plays back properly.
No need for a CUE file. ;)
You need to use encoders that support (writes gapless info in the header) gapless playback.
cogsncogs, do you mean decoders that support gapless playback?
From my own experience, I think the "standard" CD track gap is 2 seconds. I'm not sure where I learned that; it's been a while.
I know Winamp use to have a gapless playback plug-in available, but I understand that functionality is built into the player now.
What I have done to my tracks is make them with little to no gap in the stored file itself. If the track does need that bit of silence, I can use an editor to save it to the beginning or end.
I have also created a two-second silent track. This track can then be inserted into my playlist between songs, if I want that CD/LP -style of playback.
The so called standard 2 sec gap can vary wildly in commercial music. Its length is determined by the (re)mastering engineer. I never remove it as it would destroy my album listening experience. The only time I would ever edit the silence between tracks would be if I were making a 'mix' CD and the gaps were too short/long. It's an art form! I can think of quit a few instances where the re-mastering engineer screwed it up, which I corrected, of course. The 2 second standard is a standard of some burning programs.
Almost all modern encoders/decoders can write/read the gapless info in the header. Now players that can properly handle that is a different story.
If the silence is part of the audio file itself, then gapless playback would seem impossible.
From my description above, it's easy to determine that I certainly haven't destroyed the album experience.
If the silence is a part of the experience, it's not a problem to configure the ripped playback to match it, virtually exactly. If it's not a part, I don't need it.
Songs like hidden tracks at the end of a disc, with say 4 minutes of silence added on... that unnecessary stuff just gets jetted (discarded).
I know nothing about gapless info in the header.
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