Mr. Jung's ultra-low noise VREF - the GLED431

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Mark have you simulated this circuit regarding temperature diviations from example 10 to 60 degrees?

Is this not clear by inspection? It is a LED drop plus a BJT drop. What are likely values?

"All LEDs exhibit forward voltage variation as junction temperature changes. ........ .........InGaN LEDs (Blue, Verde Green, and White) have a coefficient of between –3.6 mV/K and -5.2 mV/K."
https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/TND328-D.PDF

"vBE ... ... for constant Ic the well-known value −2mV/K applies."
transistors - Why does the base-emitter voltage of a BJT decrease with temperature?
also Vbe temperature coefficient of transistors

Assume 4.4mV/K for green LED, 2mV/K for BJT. We have 6.4mV/K (5.6mV-7.2mV) total.

In 50 degrees, 320mV.

In 2.5V nominal, this is like +/-6%.

...from example 10 to 60 degrees

In Maine we call that 50F to 122F. That is a w-i-d-e range for a music system. My home audio rarely plays outside 18C-24C. 6K range, 39mV drift.
 

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Use a green 4231 led in series with 2 x 1N4149 ( yes 49 For low capacitance) for about a 3.15 V reference or 2 of the 4231 LEDS for 3.7 volt reference at 1 ma current. You can modify the LED voltage by varing the current . Mark Johnston has done a graph showing the single LED voltage Versus current. This varies as the LED warms up and is temperature Sensitive for for drift, as Walt suggested potting The assembly will reduce the drift once its settled after a few minutes. I use Walt’s 2N5486 cascoded jfet currents sources with differing number of the LT 4231 leds as voltage references in dacs, power amps, preamps, and regulators -
 
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