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Old 12th September 2014, 09:21 PM   #101
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For me the 7's are amazingly articulate, but try and play electronic music, or a movie with a heavy soundtrack and they start to struggle (and sometimes with scary Xmax), taking off those last few octaves allows them to excel in the range they do best, without missing out on those church organs or double bass...

Why not opt for the 12P instead??
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Old 12th September 2014, 09:36 PM   #102
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Yes, I mean WP, thanks :-). I am just surprised why would you want to pair one extremely wide range driver with another :-).
Very well behaved for simple low order XOs. We have done this with other brands and gotten very good results. Here & here.

We are excited about these new woofers... i have a design (in progress, over 2 years old) that took consideration for the expectation that we would see A12pw.

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Old 12th September 2014, 10:28 PM   #103
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Yup, even a single pair of 12PW in side firing push/push configuration with 7P or possibly 7.3 / MAOP7 would be quite interesting.
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Old 12th September 2014, 10:32 PM   #104
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Why not opt for the 12P instead??
well for one thing, the 10.3 or 10P can probably go lower - and in a much smaller box, and secondly, I find the "FAST" high passed + woofer combination of 7s and bass driver of your choice to be more detailed in the upper mids and top end than the 12P
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Old 12th September 2014, 11:09 PM   #105
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the 10.3 or 10P can probably go lower - and in a much smaller box ... than the 12P
In our alignment (optimal) , A10.3 fits a smaller box, A10p, A12p same volume.

The A12p is capable of the least extension, its only edge comes with dynamics.

A12pw is a different beast. Lower efficiency, higher Vas means it can go lower, lower than any MA driver that preceded it.

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Old 13th September 2014, 01:26 AM   #106
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So Mark may need to qualify his earlier statement "not all Alpairs aren't woofers". Even with their expected performance (we'll find out soon enough) let's hope that common sense prevails in their application

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I know this is a bit OT, but what about the idea of an A7P MicroTower? Maybe plus an A12PW? Separate chambers... You can whip that up in a few hours, right, Chris?
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So Mark may need to qualify his earlier statement "not all Alpairs aren't woofers". Even with their expected performance (we'll find out soon enough) let's hope that common sense prevails in their application

Yes.............................. Comes back to comments I've made on other threads when talking about power-handling and the desire for "power" generally. The 12PW remains a "light load" driver. Its a re-tuned 12P capable of bass extension. It is possible to get a bass response that is satisfying without the need for huge woofs and/or a tone of power.

However for those can't resist the attraction towards big-boys toys and/or are "play loud rock-un-rollers", Markaudio drivers shouldn't be their first choice. Its simply a question of picking the right gear for the particular job guys have in mind.

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I know this is a bit OT, but what about the idea of an A7P MicroTower?
Sure, why not. Just need an appropriate tuning.

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Old 13th September 2014, 05:49 AM   #110
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I know this is a bit OT, but what about the idea of an A7P MicroTower? Maybe plus an A12PW? Separate chambers... You can whip that up in a few hours, right, Chris?

yah, thanx a lot - but I was thinking with MAOP7 - seriously guys these MAOP drivers are something pretty damned special



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Sure, why not. Just need an appropriate tuning.

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what makes me think you've not already done the math?
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