Taking a MANGER MSW apart

[justanalogue]

Recently bought a pair of broken Manger MSW's and before I send them off to Manger to get them refurbished I thought it would be nice to take it apart.

First took the starformed damping off, then the complete membrane, underneath it was another damping, slightly thinner.
The membrane is made of 3 layers, 2 thin one's and a thicker one.

Do understand why it's costly to make such drivers.

 

[analog_sa]

Thank you!

 

[bentoronto]

Is there a sensor or auxiliary winding on the cone assembly?

B.

 

[Joachim Gerhard]

The coil is patented. Half mass and double throw. There is always the equivalent of one winding in the gap. In the middle position there is half of each coil in the gap.

 

[Marveloudio]

The most overrated transducer ever? Cannot reproduce any dumb sinewave correctly? Not used in any reputeable studio monitor worldwide?

Must be one of these wunderwaffen inventions from germoney .. they always fail to convince completely thats why they have lost two of the biggest wars ever ... oh wait sounds so familiar to me!

Go here to freak out : Projekt Mango

 

[adason]

Supposedly optimized for perfect impulse response.
However, other aspects were completely or partially neglected, like off axis terrible response.
To me flat on axis and well behaved off axis is crucial.

 

[banana]

The biggest problem in the Manger MSW is the 1.6KHz buzz, and it even get worse over time.

 

[peril]

I heard manger for 28 years. is one of the best speakers I know and I know a lot. if you only hear it briefly, you will be disappointed. you have to get used to it first!

 

[peril]

hello, the weight of the membrane would be interesting? would also like to see a picture where the membrane hangs down in the middle from the tip of a pencil. In the mango project, a beginner works. Thanks and regards

 

[justanalogue]

Hi Peril,

all the stuff is in the trashcan, it is quite sloppy otherwise you wouldn't get the " stone in the water " ripples.
The baskets have been packed and will be shipped to Manger for full refurbishment.

Kind regards,

Willem.

 

[wollie]

Any speakers have his problems,
Buth Manger is good,what sad disortation,
Tube amplifier 5%, Nelson Passs,how many ��.

 

[adason]

read this, carefully
Manger MSW

 

[justanalogue]

I have read pretty much anything about Manger the last 6 days, thanks for warning me, but I will proceed to build a system with those.
First I will use them at home and, if I am convinced they are that good in the time domain, I will demo them to my buddy who runs a studio.
If not, I will sell them, for me it is an experiment, costly yes, but nothing comes for free in life.

Kind regards,

Willem.

 

[adason]

All is perfectly fine with me. Good luck!

 

[justanalogue]

Thanks!

As soon as I have them back and start building I'll post it here, always open for recommendations and critic, one man can't know it all!

 

[wollie]

Diy Manger diy amplifier for Manger .
System - Cooltune DIY Audio

Wollie

 

[peril]

Lesen Sie dies sorgfältig durch.
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Hi, a lot is done wrong with the Manger MSW. For example, someone completely filled the housing of the MSW with sheep's wool, and some time later they found a much better broadband loudspeaker. No wonder, very good attenuation is a prerequisite for good sound.
The Manger link speaks of a smeared sound. something like that is incomprehensible to me. What I have to confirm is that the manager only sounds really good at the listening position.
My Zerobox with three MSW each had the following insulation materials.
Convoluted foam, Manger 40
Manger tough foam 20
Bofoam
regards

 

[justanalogue]

Diy Manger diy amplifier for Manger .
System - Cooltune DIY Audio

Wollie

Thanks!

Willem.

 

[justanalogue]

The most overrated transducer ever? Cannot reproduce any dumb sinewave correctly? Not used in any reputeable studio monitor worldwide?

Must be one of these wunderwaffen inventions from germoney .. they always fail to convince completely thats why they have lost two of the biggest wars ever ... oh wait sounds so familiar to me!

Go here to freak out : Projekt Mango

I feel a kind of bitterness in your response, why?
Pro and cons are always welcome but this comment has no usefull information for me.

Thanks but no thanks.

Willem.

 

[jzagaja]

So Manger has directivity like esl57 - I can live with that. In June 2007 I was at Josep Manger house. Great trip. Daniela picked me up from station. I've spent few hours. Thanks to this visit I can now buy demo pair. (no longer avaiable for DIY). Anyone tried Manger in bass horn?