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Old 20th June 2020, 08:59 PM   #231
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All this talk of Scintillas...I have a pair needing work and a set of replacement bass panels from Patrick that I have yet to open... the more I listen to my recently refurbed Quads the less I look forward to that Scintilla project....anyone want to buy the 1 ohm panels from me? They were around $1300 when purchased a few years back....
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Old 20th June 2020, 09:59 PM   #232
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If you can ship them to Finland but maybe it would be too expensive. If you were inside EU, then it would be a different story...
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Old 21st June 2020, 01:34 AM   #233
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I was looking into purchasing a pair of Scintillas for a rebuild and contacted Florian Wiegand for ribbons/panels. Looking at his offerings versus Patrick's, and the history behind Patrick, I am convinced Flo's product is superior.

He works together with Clarisys Audio and acts as a distributor. He also supplies copper returns as an upgrade of aluminium, which can also be soldered much more easily. Products ship very well packaged from Vietnam (because of Covid-19) and he has bought over 20 sets of ribbons so far and never had any problems.

Here's his latest price list:

--- Retail Price US$ per pair
Apogee Stage / Centaur Minor / Centaur / Slant 6 276.5
Apogee Centaur Major / Slant 8 304.5
Apogee Studio Grand / Studio Ribbon Array 332.5
Apogee Caliper 252
Apogee Duetta / Duetta 2 / Duetta Signature 238
Apogee Duetta/Caliper all versions** (XLM2?) 364
Apogee Diva Midrange 248.5
Apogee Diva foil Tweeters 119
(super light weight. crossover mod req) 157.5
Apogee Scintilla foil midrange & tweeters 350
Apogee Full Range foil midrange & tweeters 416.5
Apogee Grand Tweeter (approximated price) 164.5
Apogee Grand Midrange (approximated price) 210

----- Bass sold per piece
Apogee Caliper 416.5
Apogee Caliper Signature 416.5
Apogee Duetta or Duetta 2 early 444.5
Apogee Duetta Signature or later Duetta 2 444.5
Apogee Duetta Reference (German model) 444.5
Apogee Diva 619.5
Apogee Scintilla 1 & 4 ohm 472.5
Apogee Scintilla 1 ohm 472.5
Apogee Full Range 693
Apogee Grand 1046.5
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Old 21st June 2020, 02:23 AM   #234
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Wow, looks like I paid quite a bit more than that price (pair)...I still have to get the Scintilla Foil mid and tweeters, the ones that I have are functional, but look horrible...

Maybe the currency exchange rate was NOT in my favor when I bought them...donno

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If you can ship them to Finland but maybe it would be too expensive. If you were inside EU, then it would be a different story...
You can probably get them direct from Patrick for much cheaper than what I paid for mine...
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Old 21st June 2020, 01:22 PM   #235
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BTW...anyone needing Diva stands? I've a pair which I might not need anymore.
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Old 21st June 2020, 03:17 PM   #236
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John , you can retension all the ribbons with a simple roller setup and a gram scale if they are in decent shape.

Each tweeter to not exceed 40 grams and the 1.950 mid no more than 60 grams

Factory used 5mm sag
You can see before and after results

Never expose these ribbons to a windy environment such as near an outside door or window drafts

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Old 21st June 2020, 04:35 PM   #237
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Do you have exact tensions for Diva's tweeter and midrange?
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Sorry I dont have the Divas specs on those
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Old 22nd June 2020, 05:54 AM   #239
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Each tweeter to not exceed 40 grams and the 1.950 mid no more than 60 grams


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I think there is not grams but milligrams or so ??
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Old 22nd June 2020, 02:24 PM   #240
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I think I read somewhere that Diva's midrange (with kaptonback) tension should be 125gr (could it be so much!). So perhaps pure aluminum tweeter ribbon is similar with Scintilla, around 30-40gr. I'm not sure, but have a hunch...
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