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Old 24th February 2018, 11:16 PM   #1
BillTheCat is offline BillTheCat
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Default LMS vs ROON

Howdy, folks.

Following on to my earlier post, it turns out that the ROON Core (server) will run on my Qnap NAS.

So now, I'm on the fence between installing LMS or ROON server, both of which will run on my NAS. Hopefully some of you can help me sort it all out.

I have a modestly high-end audio system, and my primary objective is maximum reproduction quality. However, the UI is important, too. My DAC can run as a ROON client, Squeezebox, UPnP, Airplay or DLNA renderer. So on the hardware side, I'm in good shape.

From all reports, ROON offers a far better UI and (allegedly) has better audio performance. But that whole $500 price is a bit steep if the iteration for Qnap requires a license - that part isn't clear. I presume the ROON Core for Qnap and Synology require a license to continue working beyond a trial perid, correct?

So, I'm debating if I want to spend the money for a ROON license, or if LMS is the way to go.

I'd appreciate some discussion from those of you who have tried both and understanding the Pros/Cons of going either way.
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Old 26th February 2018, 06:26 AM   #2
henrylarsen is offline henrylarsen  Denmark
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I suggest that you take the trial period, when you are prepared to try it. If you donate like it, LMS is free.

I used LMS for 5-6 years and is now on Roon. For me several reasons made the difference - the ability to correct for difficult rooms is one, the ability for my wife to easily synchronise and deal with it much easier than LMS was another.

In the end I realised that the software price for Roon was cheap, compared to what I spend on hardware. I ended buying a lifetime solution.

You are aware of the need for a server for Roon with enough CPU capacity? If not, this will add on the hardware side on top of the expense for Roon.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 03:36 AM   #3
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Can someone explain the logic behind Roon + $99/year or $500?

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Server: QNAP + Minimserver + 100GB music collection on HDD.
Endpoints: Moode, Naim, Marantz AVR (when its WiFi works), Yamaha streamer.
Controllers: BubbleUpnp, Yamaha MusicCast

Apart from some music metadata which I can get from last.fm or discogs and a nicer UI, what exactly does Roon give me which I don't already get, for free?
I add few albums a year.

The endpoints support up to 24/192. but most of my files are 16/44.1.

I don't really like minimServer, but just bcos of the manual rescan and the inability to define upnp menu items... and fugly icon... and the authors reluctance to let people configure it.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 08:31 AM   #4
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Can someone explain the logic behind Roon + $99/year or $500?

Apart from some music metadata which I can get from last.fm or discogs and a nicer UI, what exactly does Roon give me which I don't already get, for free?
I add few albums a year.

The endpoints support up to 24/192. but most of my files are 16/44.1.
Roon is a commercial enterprise and a very professional outfit with a product they continue to invest in and develop. I think the price is high (more than I wish to pay for such functionality) but others find it acceptable.

Personally I like LMS very much, have used it for years and it will run on a wide variety of platforms of varying performance so is easy and cheap to implement. I think Roon handles complex metadata - mainly Classical - with greater competence but I like to keep things simple anyway, so it does not offer sufficient added value over free or lower cost options like LMS or JRiver.

It's up to the individual to decide on how the cost/benefit works for them.
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Old 3rd April 2018, 10:07 AM   #5
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I'm seriously considering Roon in the future, but the compute requirements are a bit steep. Once your digital music library gets above several thousand albums I believe its advantages really show, esp for classical music. But for now will continue to slum it with GMPC and a linux server
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Old 3rd April 2018, 10:16 AM   #6
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LMS works perfectly for me, and it offers a lot of functionality. With an Raspberry Pi 3B, I can play files of very high resolutions, higher than Roon...
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Old 3rd April 2018, 10:35 AM   #7
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I tried 'small' computers as I wanted a low power setup then found, once the music collection gets above a couple of TB they barf on database updates. I know that puts me up in the higher centiles of music library size
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Old 4th April 2018, 07:46 AM   #8
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First off - $500 I consider a rip-off.

To me it looks like old-school pricing for "Big Pocket Audiophiles"

2. "...the ability to correct for difficult rooms is one..."

You can run corrections per client on LMS. And you can also run corrections on each client !?!?

Do I miss anything?

3. "...the ability for my wife to easily synchronise and deal with it much easier than LMS was another..."

I don't know about your wife's capabilities. My family doesn't have any issues to handle the system using iPeng. And that includes synchronizing clients - which probably happens once a year.

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After all, what matters is that an audio stream gets played back at highest quality. That's what both approaches accomplish.

If you run LMS you're in the driving seat. You can tweak it as much as you want.

If you go for Roon - you just jump on a train. You hop on, you hop off... ...as most people do with commercial software. As most people, you'll probably just use 5% of the offered features. You pay for 100%. And the features you miss usually never show up.

Good luck and lots of fun with Roon! Enjoy.

I'll continue to enjoy my LMS/squeezelite setup.
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Old 4th April 2018, 08:08 AM   #9
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A big advantage of Roon over other similar software is that it doesn't rely on UPnP/DLNA.
With Roon certified endpoints (the cheapest ones being RPi's) you are able to play the same program material synchronously in several different rooms / zones. You are not tied to one manufacturer as with Sonos, Bluesound and whatnot to perform this.

This is a great advantage, as there are situations one isn't listening to music exclusively and concentrated, but have to do other things in the house. And having synced playback in different rooms is more than just useful.

So yes, depending what requirements you have, Roon can be a much cheaper solution than other "higher end" multiroom systems, and it works pretty hassle free.

If you listen to your music collection exclusively in one room at once and don't have the need for "rich" metadata, many other SW solutions will do.
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Old 4th April 2018, 08:30 AM   #10
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What will happen with $500 when the company like Roon will disappear ?
1000 times bigger computer companies disappeared ...
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