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Old 10th June 2019, 06:21 PM   #21
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Old 10th June 2019, 08:50 PM   #23
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I like DIYers - they are the happiest audiophiles I know, and are
remarkably nice and self-sufficient.
Happy audiophiles! Rare beasts but if you know where to look
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What would be the down side to selling to both sales channels (pre-built and dyi market) at the same time? .
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Old 11th June 2019, 11:16 AM   #25
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Points to consider:

On the downside -

PL and FW work through established distribution worldwide. Distributors
have been tolerant of DIY efforts to date, but have made it clear that
they don't like PL and FW stuff as kits or public schematics.

This is partly because of cloners and partly because it reduces the
appeal of commercial product as they see it.

Also, complete technical information gives the competition something to
badmouth, and/or copy...

Not to mention there is very little money and lots of support in selling kits.

On the upside -

I like doing DIY. It gives me a great outlet for creative efforts that don't
fit my commercial agenda.

I like DIYers - they are the happiest audiophiles I know, and are
remarkably nice and self-sufficient.

So what's not to like?


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Old 11th June 2019, 11:18 AM   #26
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This discussion of kits reminds me of why we are called "greedy boyz." Why not just be happy with Papa's crumbs. Much more than any other high end seller of audio products has ever done.
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Old 11th June 2019, 11:55 AM   #27
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This discussion of kits reminds me of why we are called "greedy boyz." Why not just be happy with Papa's crumbs. Much more than any other high end seller of audio products has ever done.
Very true!
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This discussion of kits reminds me of why we are called "greedy boyz." Why not just be happy with Papa's crumbs. Much more than any other high end seller of audio products has ever done.
Not unhappy. Just asking a question.
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Old 11th June 2019, 12:23 PM   #29
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Very true!
Let's not go all Oliver Twist now. While it's very nice for Nelson to share, it's not completely a one way street now is it? This forum provides a huge source of free brainstorming, idea generation, etc. It's like Scot Adam's and Dilbert. Everyone emails him stupid real life work stories and he has a limitless supply of fodder for his strip. No different.
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Let's not go all Oliver Twist now. While it's very nice for Nelson to share, it's not completely a one way street now is it? This forum provides a huge source of free brainstorming, idea generation, etc. It's like Scot Adam's and Dilbert. Everyone emails him stupid real life work stories and he has a limitless supply of fodder for his strip. No different.
I disagree. Very different than Scott Adams / Dilbert.

Nelson is, for free, teaching people how to make amplifiers as he makes them. In addition, he answers technical questions posed by people who are learning how to make amplifiers as he makes them. The value of this flow of information is enormous in my opinion.

I think that there is very little that flows in the opposite direction that he uses to earn money. I would venture to say maybe zero.

Just my opinion. It is worth exactly what is paid for it. Maybe less.
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