Babelfish M25, SissySIT - general building tips and tricks

shouldn't as the behaviour starts with initial power up and when toasty, they are well within their operating specs.

I disassembled the amp last night but have not captured any of the critical measurements yet - my day job has been a little demanding lately

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Not when the output of opto is saturated. Measure opto output voltage between R21 & R20 (pin 3 & 4) to verify, if voltage is < 0.5V then opto output has saturated and no longer able to regulate Iq.

Indra the Genius :worship:

Voltage between pins 3 & 4 is 0.22V

to ground: pin 3 = -4.17 , pin 4 = -3.94 ~ 0.22 as measured directly.

I did a little digging in the box of parts and have everything needed for the patch - IRF520,resistors and 24V zener. This will be my short term fix and then I will consider options.

The other measurements had me questioning my sanity

Line AC 118.5 V

Secondary : Unloaded - 19.8VAC , Loaded 19.2 VAC
Rectified : Unloaded - 26VDC , Loaded 23.4 DC ( more aligned with the expected 10% drop )

this is using the same DMM as I had previously used which gave me the 25.4 VDC loaded.

not able to get a measurement across the gate resistor?? = possibly 0.1mV


I am really pleased that I at least understand the 'why' for my amps behaviour.

Thanks to ZM and Indra for not giving up :cheers:

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that's showing that data for SIT Ugs isn't what you're writing all the time!!

meaning - your set of SITs isn't adequate for SissySIT

there is simply no big enough voltage window for opto bjt to be squeezed in

:clown: - now - you can try pure DEFiSIT - just short pins 3 and 4 of opto and set DC offset on out
 
that's showing that data for SIT Ugs isn't what you're writing all the time!!

meaning - your set of SITs isn't adequate for SissySIT

there is simply no big enough voltage window for opto bjt to be squeezed in

:clown: - now - you can try pure DEFiSIT - just short pins 3 and 4 of opto and set DC offset on out


It is bizzarre as I measured (more than once) Ugs at 19V to be 3.7

(because high mu, it is probably very different at 24v)


I am more pleased to know that it isn't something I did while building.


I can now sit back and enjoy knowing that nothing is likely to blow up

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try shorting optopins , as I wrote

also - you din't confirmed measurements of Donut secondaries , we still don't know real reason why you are having so high rails

I can bet that AC is in range od 20V, not 18

btw- there is a reason why I declared 24Vdc for SIT testing , in procedure explained in SissySIT thread

maybe you mentioned using 19V , in that case I simply overlooked

aha - is it still sounding good?

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...because high mu, it is probably very different at 24v...
Nope, yours are not likely to be high mu. It is normal SIT charactristic to have different Vgs for a certain Iq when measured at a different Vds. It is important to note that your pair of THS have the most desirable characteristics, the Vgs is good for the original DEFiSIT as Papa designed. Try the amp as ZM suggested and monitor Iq closely.
 
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slow but .... boards already done and other parts are here.

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also - you din't confirmed measurements of Donut secondaries , we still don't know real reason why you are having so high rails

I can bet that AC is in range od 20V, not 18

Secondary : Unloaded - 19.8VAC , Loaded 19.2 VAC

yes - you are once again correct

aha - is it still sounding good?

it was before I pulled it apart to get the measurements.

I will convert to DEFiSIT

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