About possible Babelfish J interest

aha

yup , problem often is my multitasking

in fact , I am the problem , due to multitasking :)

just confirm - you're having 0R47 resistor mounted now ?
ZM, I’m grateful for the help.

Welllll, very good question. Yesterday morning I would have answered yes. But after spending some time measuring and pre-checking everything in the afternoon, I noticed I had bought, and stupidly installed, 0R.47 resistors.

So the correct ones are on the way.

No short answer, in a couple days I will have 0R47’s mounted.
 
Would the Babelfish J be happy with 18 V rails? I need a summer amp and a mini Aleph J was the plan but the Babelfish has cascodes and that seems interesting. No rush on this as I do have a backlog of projects but I am retiring the end of this summer and expect to find time to clear up that backlog over the next year.
 
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Sorry was sleeping. Right now my mistake is sitting there reminding me to double check before soldering!

0R.47’s 5w are soldered in.


why changing them , if they're good ?



Would the Babelfish J be happy with 18 V rails? I need a summer amp and a mini Aleph J was the plan but the Babelfish has cascodes and that seems interesting. No rush on this as I do have a backlog of projects but I am retiring the end of this summer and expect to find time to clear up that backlog over the next year.

it'll work as charm
 
ZM, I guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue (movie reference)!!

I don’t know what I was thinking yesterday. I have the correct 0R47 resistors soldered in.

Below is a marked up schematic of what is soldered in now. Can you take a look and let me know what needs changed? Looks like I’ve taken some values from two different schematics.

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Dear ZM,
mmh, all my programs say the cdr file ist defective (on my Mac). Can you provide it me again and / or if possible as hpgl, thanks!


Enlarge thumbnail. Press right button on mouse and drop down menu opens: 'save to desktop' from drop down menu. Saves on my iMac {OS 10.11.6} as a .jpg:)

ZM:

That is one hell of a good logo!
 
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here it is , finally ;

look at attached schm , I believe I edited everything ;

note - input JFets doubled , doubled current through them (LTP) , BD140 cascodes instead of eeenyweeeny BC critters

few resistors marked as 1W - you can easily buy metal oxide ones , tiny as regular 600mW metal-films ; up them smidge above pcb

for more necessary info about general approach (how to connect Daughter boards , recipe for eternal life and no need for Viagra ....) read these posts:

#21 (important Snake Oil notes)

#80 (how to actually do it ; imagine 2 daughter boards per side , paralleled)


Greedy Boy Coasttocoast asked for something with 38Vac rails ........ that would be aroundish 47-48Vdc

same applicable

Boyz - you're nutz ........ who need that sort of power ?

:clown:

I’m not sure how I got sideways/confused, so best to go back to the beginning.

I received the balance of resistors I needed and swapped everything to exactly match this originally provided schematic to match my original power supply.

Been really giving my Hakko 808 some good use!

Here is a pic of the completed board. In wanting to stay with all PRP resistors I had to get a little creative with the 3ea 1W ones.

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Going to put some power to it later today when I get back home and see what happens!
 
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Lazy ZM

see enclosed (repeated) schematic


looking at it , I can see that I didn't made (miracle!) any serious mistake ...... but looking at pic of your pcb , I see that YOU made few ....

most important thing(s):

-source resistors for 6 pairs of outoput mosfets , as I marked them , are 1R ..... and you change them to 0R47 ; OK with me ......
-now , BIG BUT! : according to source resistors of 1R , 6 of them in each half , demands that in SENSE group ( resistors in series with output) we have 6pcs of 0R47 , or 12pcs of 1R ........ practically half value of all source resistors (in one half) paralleled ........ and that is your mistake , as far I can see from pics..... you have too few of 0R47s in SENSE group

-Conclusion - if you have 6 mosfet vertical pairs ,each mosfet having 0R47 source resistor , in SENSE group you need to have either 12 paralleled 0R47 , or 6 paralleled 0R22

had few mishaps with values of trimpot and resistor in input JFet drain , corrected , red marked

rest is OK
 

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Lazy ZM

see enclosed (repeated) schematic


looking at it , I can see that I didn't made (miracle!) any serious mistake ...... but looking at pic of your pcb , I see that YOU made few ....

most important thing(s):

-source resistors for 6 pairs of outoput mosfets , as I marked them , are 1R ..... and you change them to 0R47 ; OK with me ......
-now , BIG BUT! : according to source resistors of 1R , 6 of them in each half , demands that in SENSE group ( resistors in series with output) we have 6pcs of 0R47 , or 12pcs of 1R ........ practically half value of all source resistors (in one half) paralleled ........ and that is your mistake , as far I can see from pics..... you have too few of 0R47s in SENSE group

-Conclusion - if you have 6 mosfet vertical pairs ,each mosfet having 0R47 source resistor , in SENSE group you need to have either 12 paralleled 0R47 , or 6 paralleled 0R22

had few mishaps with values of trimpot and resistor in input JFet drain , corrected , red marked

rest is OK

Fantastic! We are getting close. Thanks for looking this over and being patient with me.

Please indulge me a couple more questions.

So I need to swap out TP1, 20 Ohm trimpot with a 200 Ohm trimpot, and change R7 to 390 Ohm.

On the daughter boards I have 1 Ohm/3W resistors and a 180 Ohm resistors for each mosfet.

On the front end board I have OR47’s for positions R31-R36. So I need to swap these out for 1 Ohm?

Thanks
 
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TP1 was marked as 500R , now going to 200 ..... though - you can leave 500 in , just having less turns to fiddle with

having 1R on daughterboards (that's my bad , I understood that you have them ALL 0R47) , leave those 0R47s on main board and do not touch source & sense resistors at all

remember ........ as I wrote in previous post - if you have 6 of 1R under mosfets , you need half of that in SENSE group ....... and that's exactly 6 paralleled 0R47s

so , to repeat - now I have necessary info that I can say that source and sense resistors are good