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Old 7th July 2018, 11:39 AM   #931
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Most amps take me a long time to make. I like to lay out and etch my own PCBs, and build the chassis from scratch. Not to mention the limited time. For me it's been important to pick the 'right' next amp.

I am really enjoying the M2. It is perfect for the music I listen to most. I spend a lot of time listening to different types of Jazz and vocalists. For this the M2 has been unparalleled to anything I've had here. If I had to stop, I'd stop on the M2. 98db speakers.

Rock is a different story. Usually I am happier with an Adcom or some other thingy.

For those that have had both, or heard both - what do you think? The ~25w output doesn't bother me due to speaker efficiency. I think I know the answer, but...

Should the F5 be the next build? Does it have a better 'character' for rock?
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Old 8th July 2018, 12:58 AM   #932
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Hi mpmarino,

did you ever compare your listening experiences with the distortion "habits" of your amps?
despite the question of sheer power this is a hint for enjoyment.
Unfortunately my f5 does not have the P3 option, but to change the distortion from second to third harmonic is one of the simplest methods to get a different sound. its not a question of quality but of taste.
I prefer my push pull with 20 watts over my single ended with 6 watts with led zeppelin.
its not the power...my horn speakers make nearly 100 db from one watt and the sub is helped individually, but the first sounds involving and challenging while the second tends to sound nice and relaxt. i prefer both sometimes. f5 and f7 are capable of both, sweet and bitter but with P3 you can decide about the weather...

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Old 10th July 2018, 01:39 AM   #933
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Thanks for the suggestions. It seems that F5 would not be suggested for rock n' roll

with the exception of 'P3' in the F5 - moving to 3rd harmonic for some more 'sizzle' - interesting. Sorta seems like avoiding AB just for the sake of being A.



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Old 10th July 2018, 01:51 PM   #934
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I'm curious why you found the M2 not suitable for rock with your speakers.
Maybe the low-ish damping factor? If that's the case, the F5 should be
better in that regard.
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Old 10th July 2018, 02:41 PM   #935
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ZM - the only thing I blame the M2 for, is being the best amp yet ever
aha

and , yes , M2 on Steroids - Babelfish M25 ........ plonked heavily ..... being succeeded in system with DEFiSIT .........

otherwise , it's great amp
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Old 11th July 2018, 08:59 PM   #936
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Hmm.... don`t know about M2 on steroids but would say the f5 can do anything easily.
The 3rd harmonic sizzle is so low you would not realize it with your speakers...
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I was speaking strictly about this occasion

besides that , we all know that F5 is sissy amp , and that M2 is better

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Old 12th July 2018, 03:43 AM   #938
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Old 12th July 2018, 10:04 PM   #939
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And some use tubes and pretend to be happy with that...

No insult!

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Old 14th July 2018, 05:12 PM   #940
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You might also consider the Push Pull version of the BA3 amp. I dont think I have fired up F5 since its completion. Great amp for all music, rock included.

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