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Old 18th April 2010, 11:51 PM   #501
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wouldn't it be easier to just buy or build an EQ ?
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Do you think an equalizer would do those effects?

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Aesop had a fable, I think it had something to do with sour grapes...

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Sour grapes ..... I wouldn't hold it against you Bear ...

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Old 19th April 2010, 07:37 PM   #505
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Do you think an equalizer would do those effects?

Maybe , maybe not ......
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Old 19th April 2010, 09:03 PM   #506
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The reason I ask is that the equalizer makes differences which
are clearly measurable, for example variations in the response
curve, but typically these sorts of changes to the circuit do not
duplicate those variations.

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The reason I ask is that the equalizer makes differences which
are clearly measurable, for example variations in the response
curve, but typically these sorts of changes to the circuit do not
duplicate those variations.

Interesting ,

Nelson are you saying that those sonic characteristics being described by the changes done to the F5 does not show up under empirical testing ? one would believe it would show somewhere and be measurable , not necessarily via just frequency response , but say THD, TIM, slew , etc ....
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The question is not if something is measurable as much as how to correlate the measurement(s) to the sonic and subjective impression. That has proven to be a very elusive bit of holy grail. Unless you know something that no one else does?

I believe that what was said is that the changes are not simple amplitude changes like those that an EQ would make.


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wouldn't it be easier to just buy or build an EQ ?
I would say its a choise of lifestyle

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Old 19th April 2010, 11:12 PM   #510
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I understand Nelson's statement very well and my question was not just about simple amplitude changes, as noted in my response and the good ones can correlate subjective sonic impressions to empirical data and it's associated changes.......

If we hear it , it's there , it can be measured , the main issue is what affects all hi-fi , static, single dimensional measurements taken for multi-dimensional dynamic reproduction.

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